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Yes, I'm happy with performance but I agree, the Telstar is quite streamlined as Mh's go, which is one of the reasons we bought it. One indication of what I think is quite acceptable pulling power might be that I only had to select 4th to climb up the bridge on the way back into L'Harvre, which as many will know is some climb.
I expect you are right. The handbook doesn't mention it. The cruise control tries to decelerate so abruptly that it feels like the brakes have been applied suddenly. Not smooth at all. Not that you get a lot of engine braking with an auto. It also has a computerised EBD operating on the front driving wheels so I suspected that the computer could apply the front brakes if it wanted to. It's all linked together.
The best use for cruise control still is to keep a constant 49 mph through the roadworks where the SPECS average speed enforcement cameras are operating.
Also dont forget the weight ie 3500kg max or 4000kg max and Autos always use more fuel.
This was the case with the old fluid Flywheel/Torque converter auto boxes but these Renault boxes are apparently six speed maual with a conventional clutch arrangement and with a computer making the changes at the optimum conditions.
As stated Renault claim it to be better mpg than the manual which must be backed up by data to pass the advertising standards scrutiny.
Mine is the 150bhp Auto with a Tunit box set on number 4 of the 9 settings available. Best I have had mpg is 36mpg last year as we crossed France to the Ambois brass band concert. We are always well laden with full tanks and bikes.
I have noticed that on a steep incline the Cruise Control will kick it down two gears into 4th in its effort to maintain 60mph up the hill, so if speed starts to drop off I just flick out of cruise and ascend manual.
Ours seems to be at its most economical in 4th and 5th gear never under 32mpg
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Not always - the Renault (& Fiat) autos are just automated manuals - they have a proper clutch, not a torque converter, all that happens is the ECU dips the clutch and changes the gears.
Also with Mazda Bongos, which have an autobox that locks up in top gear, the autos have a significantly higher top gear ratio than the manuals and achieve pretty much the same mpg on a run - they are worse around town though.
Hi guys we have renault monte carlo quick shift 2007 120 dci and must say im a fast driver and we drove 3 of them and must say i thought they were very slow then we went to elite motorhomes last year when we went for the test drive i could belive how fast it was pulling away so we loved it and drove it home the same day as for the mpg im sorry guys but im geting 34-37 mpg worked out from filling up a full thank as for the speed on motorway around 65 to 85 cars and vans can vary a huge amount on performece and mpg i say this as iv been in the car trade for forty years of expercence. hope this helps regards robert
Hj all ive been following this thread with interest as we have the 150 dci manual on our burstner which we bought after test driving a few other makes first.
We have been very pleased so far and are always pulling near to the max 3.5t.
I have logged every fill and are averaging 30 mpg using 4.546ltrs to the gallon. (a bit nerdy I know but it helps us work out our budget) Hardly ever need to change down on motorways even in scotland where we live. exept on very steep hills where I love to do a seamless change from 6th to 5th matching engine revs to roadwheel speed thus maintaining momentum it really makes a difference and is something no ecu can match, anyone who has driven the old aec foden or similar will know.
Anyhoo rambling again.
The renault master is higher geared than many of the similar sized vans so can understand perhaps the 120 feeling a bit sluggish, also if you want to cruise at 56mph you may find the engine labouring a bit in 6th we are only getting about 2300 rpm at 70 which is only a bit more than the fiat and ford were running at 60 so they would have been quite happy to cruise at 56.
I do have one complaint though when we were in france we found we were mostly at 80 on the auto routes and consumtion dropped to 29.5 shocking Ray
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