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Thanks to the ‘anti-stalling device’ I can’t control the gas and it seems to think it knows better than me. That’s why there are so many people on here talking about stalling Transits. Bet Ford didn’t test it using a Motorhome driving up levellers. All the power eventually arrives at once usually about 4000 rpm and then the clutch starts to burn, you ease off the gas and it stalls, it’s frustrating as hell. It’s also embarrassing as people on sites think you don’t know how to control it and offer you all sorts of advice in languages you can’t understand. If you stall on a steep hill it's very difficlut to get going again.
I plan to have it turned off but I’m abroad until September and not confident about discussing this with a foreign dealer.
The other point is why? Why would a company install this into a van? Do van drivers need it? Surely it’s only learners would need such a thing and even if it worked which is doesn’t Ford would be eliminating an essential part of learning, I mean how many learners have you seen driving Transits? The idea, its installation and effectiveness defies logic.
The unit also shudders when maintaining speed around 1600rpm in third or fourth gears. My mate has a 09 Transit and has had a lot of problems with his. I hope the old FORD acronyms of ‘Fix Or Repair Daily’ and ‘Found On Road Dead’ don’t come true.
I had no bother with my Fiat, sorry if you're upset by that but it's true.
Cummins introduced a similar feature over 10 years ago on its lorry engines.
When moving off, all that was required was to select 1st gear and let clutch up, without touching the accelerator pedal. Once moving, you could drive on as normal. If you tried using accelerator whilst letting up clutch, it didn't like it! System even worked well on very steep hills at 38 tonnes.
Seems that car/van manufacturers are finally catching up (Cummins also had a system that shut off engine if at idle for more than a preset time - now hailed as the latest environmental technology on cars!)
I guess that the system used by Ford didn't anticipate ultra-low speed maneuvering onto levelling blocks!
Hi Keith
It sounds horrific, as you possibly read from my posts I originally had stalling problems which were a nightmare but no extra vibration problems and I got the computer upgrade done under warranty and that did it, drives really sweetly, no probs at all.
I was advised by someone on the forum to look on the Ford Transit owners forum and that was a help. Unfortunately I am not well versed on vehicle engineering to be able to advise in detail.
Good luck and don't despair there is no reason that given the right Ford dealership that you can't get the same satisfactory result that I did.
Neil
I like many experienced drivers often just use the clutch to get motors moving, no trickery involved even petrol units will move off easily if you’re careful enough. So I’m not getting the need for a device to help when no help is needed. Are they effective in Lorries?
Glad you got yours fixed out Neil and I’ll be mentioning your experience to Ford when I see them.
When we first got the van we took it up to the Highlands to test it out. We started to climb a very steep hill on a single track road with passing places and had to drop gears until it was in first, anti-stall kicks in and I couldn’t get it moving. Initially no response from the gas then came the power surge followed by wheel spin and the burning clutch. I had to wave traffic to pass as I, or it, was holding people up. I have a few months before I get home so I’ll have to park/pitch only on the flat.
Just remembered, going through the Pyrenees next week. Look out for a stuck Burstner Nexxo on Google earth.
The power outputs range from 110 so I've got the least powerful 2.2 TDCi 5-spd. Performance is decent enough when on the go but I'll be able to gauge it better when I get home and have the ASS turned off. I'll find out if it needs the ECU upgrade too. Thanks for all the replies.
Location: Bideford - a good place to test juddering Fiats and electric bikes.
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kc10 wrote:
I’ve got 2010 Nexxo on a Transit 2.2 110 FWD.
Thanks to the ‘anti-stalling device’ I can’t control the gas and it seems to think it knows better than me.......Keith
Do you have Hill Launch Assist on your van:?:
If so, on a slope, you must ensure that the hand brake is fully off before engaging the clutch, otherwise one gets lots of that lovely burning clutch smell If you don't like HLA, Ford will turn it off for you
If that's not the problem, then if it's the "anti-stalling device" that gives automatic increase from idle to 1200 rpm as the clutch engages that concerns you, where does the 4000rpm come from
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Haven’t heard of HLA but was told when I bought the van it had the anti satll system ... and that it made you stall it.
Believe me I have tried everything to level my van over three days. If I just use the clutch it can’t climb the levellers and it stalls. So I have to use the gas but it won’t let it through until there is significant pressure on the pedal but it all comes through at once. At this point it feels like you’re over-riding the system. As it cuts off the revs soar to 4000rpm. So you reduce the gas and it stalls. Then the system starts all over again. .Just going to go to flat places this trip.
I loath technology that takes away driver control, I have a Seat Altea at home and it has way too much of this, auto-dimming rear view mirror, synchronised electric door mirrors, rain sensor, automatic lights ... they’ve wasted more of my time than they’ve saved. The rain sensor being the worst as it needs constant attention.
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If you don't like HLA, Ford will turn it off for you 
