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883687 Post Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:08 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

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Not all Italian electrics are similarly aflicted. CBE equipment is fitted to many vans for example and is (unless you tell me otherwise) quite predictable and reliable.

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Hi,
My Ace 2008 model control panel has just failed again for the 6th (i think) time not a major issue it shows no charge to the battery when its being charged seems to fail in this way or showing a massive charge when not charging
Both fresh and waste water indicate empty when full and vice versa
Will book in on return as warranty end in December - however Swift have advised me that if I have more probems with the electrics post warranty they will "look at"
regards Ray
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airstream wrote:
Hi,
My Ace 2008 model control panel has just failed again for the 6th (i think) time not a major issue it shows no charge to the battery when its being charged seems to fail in this way or showing a massive charge when not charging
Both fresh and waste water indicate empty when full and vice versa
Will book in on return as warranty end in December - however Swift have advised me that if I have more probems with the electrics post warranty they will "look at"
regards Ray


Sorry, if I'm stating the obvious and you've already done it -
but have you tried rebooting the panel?

On the few occasions our NE183 has played up we've rebooted it and it's worked perfectly.

Just a thought.

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Yes to reboot,
We have had 5 fuseboxes 5/6 new control panels and 3 battery chargers since we purchased the van
We are not alone in this in fact others have had more replacements
than us
Major issue now is that Swift want the faulty one returned to them, they then send the unit to Italy for repair last time it took six weeks for our fuse box to be fixed returned to dealer
Prior to Swift kicking the manufacturer out it was a 4/5 day turnaround - courier pick up and return
Regards Ray
 
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Thanks Ray, I'm really starting to get the big picture with this now and can take some consolation in that I realise I've had the same problems but only not as bad. I've had 3 battery chargers, 3 control panels and I believe 3 fuse board/relay units although the latter's a bit sketchy. I also had (but it went way) an intermittent problem with the wipers where the would get stuck halfway across the screen and stay there. FIAT in comparison have been brilliant and are replacing the management computer but after reading these forums I now think this could be related to the hab control panel as well.

As I've said, having had an older style panel fitted last time, I have some peculiar issues (like no hot water if the van temperature is above 30 degrees and no TV on mains. The dealer has stated they really don't know what to do if this latest replacement (on order?) doesn't work in my particular van - apparantly they couldn't get the original (newer) replacement to work last time with my existing fuse board due to compatability problems and are now out of ideas.

It strikes me that Swift don't seem to be given my particular dealer much support. They can't give any firm dates for action either, even for just dispatching the parts!

I've fought hard against my wife's opinion with this farcical situation but have given in the fact that we should now take legal advice. After all, we've just missed most of this summer and missed last year's too because the van was back for repair at the dealer - and it's still not right.

I'm even thinking of putting a video on Youtube to illustrate the problems first hand. It probably won't do me any good personally when I come to trade/sell the vehicle but at least it might give other potential owners an insight into what they could be getting themselves into!!!

I sympathise with every other Airstream owner!!!

Do Boleros and Bessacarr's also suffer the same problem or is it just us unfortunate souls?

Regards

Bob

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Our "07" Sundance 590RS also made numerous trips back to the Dealers (Spinney) for problems with the Control Panel (NE183) and Distribution Board. Both items were replaced and worked for a while before problems started again ie. step not operating - no pump or lighting.
Spinney suggested replacing the Communications Cable between the two items but a fellow "Swift" owner advised me to remove the panel and disconnect the two cables plugged into the rear of the control panel - in effect "re-booting" the system. This did work for a period before a repeat was required.
Our new "10" reg has a totally new system which so far has operated ok but does not seem to incorporate "on-off timing control" for the heating system.
 
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Hi,

This is for the 2010 range.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBZef2hBPI

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I have just purchased a Hymer 562 Silverline and just coming to terms with how much there is to learn but could someone please advise me if the water tank is seperate from the boiler and how do you empty these tanks.
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Selseybob wrote:
Thanks Ray, I'm really starting to get the big picture with this now and can take some consolation in that I realise I've had the same problems but only not as bad. I've had 3 battery chargers, 3 control panels and I believe 3 fuse board/relay units although the latter's a bit sketchy. I also had (but it went way) an intermittent problem with the wipers where the would get stuck halfway across the screen and stay there. FIAT in comparison have been brilliant and are replacing the management computer but after reading these forums I now think this could be related to the hab control panel as well.

As I've said, having had an older style panel fitted last time, I have some peculiar issues (like no hot water if the van temperature is above 30 degrees and no TV on mains. The dealer has stated they really don't know what to do if this latest replacement (on order?) doesn't work in my particular van - apparantly they couldn't get the original (newer) replacement to work last time with my existing fuse board due to compatability problems and are now out of ideas.

It strikes me that Swift don't seem to be given my particular dealer much support. They can't give any firm dates for action either, even for just dispatching the parts!

I've fought hard against my wife's opinion with this farcical situation but have given in the fact that we should now take legal advice. After all, we've just missed most of this summer and missed last year's too because the van was back for repair at the dealer - and it's still not right.

I'm even thinking of putting a video on Youtube to illustrate the problems first hand. It probably won't do me any good personally when I come to trade/sell the vehicle but at least it might give other potential owners an insight into what they could be getting themselves into!!!

I sympathise with every other Airstream owner!!!

Do Boleros and Bessacarr's also suffer the same problem or is it just us unfortunate souls?

Regards

Bob
 
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Hello

We are approaching 2y11m of Warranty on a 680FB
Usual history --more electrical problems than not
lerUmpteen chargers, a boiling battery, now with the Dealer for a repalacement Control Box.

No confidence that a satisfactory outcome (long term reliability) is going to come -- I am preparing to go to Court

----Lots of folk have talked about it ANYONE BEEN THER YET ???

Sue the ealer call Swift as a Witness is the prescribed method

Which piece of Law which court ?????

Regards
Peter Wilkinson
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