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BillD

Hi All,

Can I try a slightly different slant on this discussion, please.

I subscribe to several magazines on a variety of subjects. These cost, on average, around £3 each - say £36 per year each. In each magazine I am lucky if 20% is of interest to me. To get direct feedback from any of them is virtually impossible.

This site gives me vast amounts of information, that I can to a large extent view selectively (if people head their topic realistically). I can ignore topics that I have no knowledge of or interest in or that at that time I don't have time to spare for.

What is more important I can help other people from my experience and knowledge. I can also discuss topics (like this one) where there are many viewpoints to be taken into account.

I chose to subscribe because I want to see this site continue and improve and I am happy to contribute. When I compare the value for money I get with my magazine subs. I know which comes out far and away ahead.

I am not going to suggest that it should be a subscription only site far from it - it is up to your own consciences and mind processes.

jabber

Bill,

I adopt much the same attitude as yourself. Its the same for me with the CC, I think its magazine is worth the annual fee, so I get all the other benefits for nothing.

With subscriptions at least Nuke has some idea of a sum he can count on, unfortunately it is from a small number at present. Everything has been said about the quality and value of the site, and I can only say it gives me a lot of pleasure.

I might add I also donate to other sites I use that are 'self supporting' in order to show appreciation and support but if they had subs I may equally subscribe to them.

If people use this site properly the help and information they can obtain is truly amazing, I suspect there are very few regular users who have not changed something they do or obtained assistance in some form ro the other.

John Cool

kands

Hi Bill and John
Words of wisdom indeed.

These are the points I have been trying to put across in the main.
This site is fantastic, we are allowed to air our views as we wish, we can ask for help / advice and assistance which we get in abundance. Sometimes we have to weed out the answer from the fog of war, but that also adds to the community spirit in some ways.
During my time on the site I have asked dozens of questions and had really useful answers. The help we have had has saved us thousands of pounds financially and helped us to gain the knowledge required to make good decisions and buy good motorhomes. Once in our possession there has been help and advice to help us fix the problems that crop up whenever you change a vehicle. To some the question may be boring and mundane but to others it is of interest and answers are generally swiftly forthcoming. When we bought our Hymer there were one or two issues that showed no-one had experienced the fault before, so once I had attacked the problem and resolved it I decided to post my experiences on this site to assist others in the same way I had been assisted previously. I know of several people that were helped by this info and I am very glad that I could help someone.
Where else can you get that feeling of satisfaction and achievement???

If we gave 10% of the money we had saved as a result of the help we have had to this site then Nuke would meet his donation target for quite a while, just to put it into perspective, and I KNOW we are not alone in this situation.

My only slight disagreement Bill is that I do not believe that funding for the site should be a conscience thing, because it's easy not to have a conscience and take it all for granted. We come on here for many hours a week for enjoyment and enlightenment, but there is someone (or more) that come on here for at least the same periods of time trying to make it all a pleasant experience for us all. These people are taken for granted and even abused when it is less than perfect.
Let us please try to remember that this is Nuke's site and he is, IMO, allowed to do with it as he wishes, and if we the members don't agree we are free to exercise our right to go somewhere else or lobby to make changes, I personally believe that if funding is not forthcoming in the near future, then the site could well stop being Nukes baby and become a burden that he finds difficult to justify and then we may not have any decisions to make, they will be made for us, and I certainly do not want to belong to a site affiliated to PC and censorship according to the power of the advertiser NO THANKS.....

Food for thought guys

Keith

jabber

I like the way the site goes to full page when a thread is chosen and the go to Main Page option at the top.

Nuke a serious question though, I often wander off and leave my PC still connected to the site, I often have two or more sites loaded at the same time. Does this have any effect on the running of the software and cause the site to slow for others?

John Cool

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