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948978 Post Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:19 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

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Hi Tony

The MHF Rally Group is in fact a completely seperate organisation from MHF for legal reasons. In order to become a member you must book onto a MHF rally - you will then be automatically become a member. The forum apertaining to the Rally Group:
http://www.motorhomefacts.com/forum-202.html
is exclusively reserved for formal rally group business and is only enabled to members who are currently members of the MHF Rally Group.

As previously stated, there is nothing secret about it, it's there purely for legal reasons.


Can you expand on the legal reasons please, purely interest, the DEFRA 5 day regulations are covered by any individual recorded as a paid up member.


Have a look at this post it covers the basics
http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopicp-834499.html#834499

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Clicked on your link and it says...
`sorry only users with special access can read topics in this forum

think i`ll just turn up!`
 
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ICDSUN wrote:
Have a look at this post it covers the basics
http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopicp-834499.html#834499
Ch ris

I've just clicked on this post and I get the message that "Sorry, but only users granted special access can read topics in this forum". I thought it would be interesting to read the basics but if I am interpreting correctly what has been said before, then I can't even read a post about the basics of what the rally forum / rallies are about without going on one first? Sounds a bit like how it use to be (and may still be for all I know) with acting and the actor's union, Equity. You weren't allowed to act unless you were a member of Equity and you could only become a member if you were an actor!
 
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Here is the content of that post, not sure what is the reason you can't view but hope this helps

No secrets as you will see


This is a short explanation as to why we have had to form a separate Motorhomefacts Rally Group.

To allow us to hold rallies of up to 5 days on unlicensed land we have to have an Exemption Certificate. This was in the past issued by Defra who were quite relaxed as to who got one.

However since last year certificates are now issued by Natural England, The Scottish Government and The Welsh Assembly Government. They are much more strict. To enable us to renew our existing certificate we have therefore had to form a Motorhomefacts Rally Group as a separate entity from the MHF site, with a Constitution and a Code of Conduct.

We also have a Group Management Committee which consists of Nukeadmin, 4 Moderators and the remainder being Rally Staff. They organise the day to day running of the Group.

We have also had to join a group called ACCEO to enable us to purchase Public Liability Insurance. This is obviously needed at all our rallies, even those held at shows, as the show organisers Insurance specifically excludes all attendees camped with their own club.

These are also the reasons why when you register for a rally for the 1st time and most likely once every year from now on, you now have to tick the box to say you have read, understood and agree to abide by the rules of the Motorhomefacts Rally Group and wish to join.

The £1 Rally fee we now charge is to cover the cost of the ACCEO membership, Public Liability Insurance and to give the Rally Group a small working capital to organise our rallies.
 
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The reason why you Tony645 and peribro can not access the above link I think is because you have not been on a rally list as of yet.

When you add yourself to attend a rally you have to tick a box to say you have read the conditions and agreed to abide by them (well I think thats how it works Rolling Eyes ) no doubt Gaspode will put us all right when he gets on here but he is away for a few days so might not be till later in the week.

But as Chris says there is nothing sinister in there Laughing



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So, I can cancel the cloak and hat and dont need to know any funny handshakes! Only joking!!
I`m sure I`ll be attending one next year and make sure I tick the box. tony
 
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tony645 wrote:
So, I can cancel the cloak and hat and dont need to know any funny handshakes! Only joking!!
I`m sure I`ll be attending one next year and make sure I tick the box. tony


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Cloaks are quite acceptable, but a pink tutu will go down far better Laughing

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Ah! so now I know what your up to! Pink tutu on order, just got to shave my legs.
 
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Not fair is it? here we are having a bit of fun, and poor Bengals still stuck on his mates lawn!
 
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ICDSUN wrote:
However since last year certificates are now issued by Natural England, The Scottish Government and The Welsh Assembly Government. They are much more strict.

That's what happens when we have thousands and thousands of quangos and devolved government - they have to pass rules and regulations to justify their own existence and in so doing make things such as this a lot more complicated than they need to be. We'll probably find Brussels getting in on the act soon and then there will have to be another "secret" forum to deal with that no doubt. Smile
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