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The list on the SMMT site looks very much like the one we have seen before (from Jim), but a month younger. The two things I find interesting are:
1 It quite clearly states that: ' Anyone selling (or offering to supply) a vehicle is responsible for ensuring that it complies with all applicable laws. It is an offence under the Road Traffic Act 1988 if a vehicle offered for sale is too long or too wide.' which flies in the face of much discussion on this site
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2 The implication is (For American imports the verification of external dimensions is carried out by SMMT using the official manufacturer's technical details available publicly.) that they just look at the publicity on the web or printed data to get the sizes. This interesting as the US and European standards differ as to what should be included in the measurements.
I think we can look at a nosedive in the prices of secondhand RVs which are above 2.55M wide. Your thoughts?
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This looks like the same list updated and while it might not be good news if a model you wanted to import is on the oversize banned list, it is good news that there is now a list to refer to.
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I agree but how all of a sudden RV's that were on the DVLA's approved list are now in the SMMT's oversized list?
ALL Damon & Monaco RVs are now in the oversized list.
Whats to say that next month another list isn't produced with different figures again
A member of the ARVM forum wrote the following:
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Dudley instructed, i.e. open the driver and passenger windows and pull the tape across and then deduct the thickness of the rubber seals, it is (within a nats whisker) 100". Legal, I am pleased to say. Forget what the brochure says.
Paul said that in the jurisdiction that he works, he is not having any problems whatsoever with registering new Winnies, and they are all measured for clarity, to and for, one and all. So they are legal too.
He went on to say they are measured flat wall to flat wall. Forget all the bull about handles, awnings, toppers, etc., the authorities have to be realistic and sensible (not always possible I guess!!) and that it is patently unnecessary to remove peripheral bits and pieces as the authorities know they will be refitted. It is all about having a proper, honest and professional relationship with the authorities with which you work.
If JIMBO would like to contact Paul or Chris at Dudleys, they will help him with UK registration if they can, without any prejudice.
However, the matter is still in quite a delicate stage with so much goings on between all sorts of authorities. It is important (personally speaking) that no-one (I mean us, RV owners etc.) does anything to antagonise the situation. I believe the 'professional' dealers are doing their bit as I said in an earlier post and that fingers crossed (everything crossed actually), all will be sorted in due course. I may be proved wrong though!!
So, if you have an RV already registered and on the road, I don't think you will have any problems. However, if you are importing one from the USA, you may find your local DVLA may or may not be obliging! Depends on where you live.
Hope this will help someone out there, even if it is only to sleep!
Well I wonder what Paul Dudley will be saying now???
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I think we can look at a nosedive in the prices of secondhand RVs which are above 2.55M wide. Your thoughts?
If an 'oversize' RV is registered, taxed and MOTed in the UK it is legal, it may affect their sales but as a buyer I personally I wouldn't worry about it, the recent court case of the oversized RV proved this point.
However, insurance companies may have a different view point and use it as an excuse to void a policy.
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Hi jim this is what 3 appeal court judges said about the insurance issue in Brammel versus Destination RV case
"In the light of this limited evidence I conclude that non-compliance with the ? Regulations so far as the width of the motorhomes is concerned is not a matter material to risk or to premium, that such breach does not, therefore, need to be disclosed to motor insurers and that failure to do so would not be a material non-disclosure entitling insurers to avoid the policy"
Olley
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