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190519 PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:26 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Snelly wrote:
Its about time things got fairer then... where could you take this information so it would make a difference??


B*ggered if I know Shane....DVLA haven't got a clue, Mr Randle gives the impression he knows but won't let on to anyone Rolling Eyes

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Just a (cynical???) thought..... What if the DVLA have got into their heads that if they allow the "big boys" to import at will and clamp down on every other type of RV importer then by default they have some sort of regulation in place? They will have control over what comes in due to the importers being largely "distributors" for the manufacturers, so the stock will be mostly new vehicles being sold and this will get the older ones off the streets. The huge cost of a new RV will mean that the sales are very limited, so there will be only a few sold each year......
Not sure if I have communicated my thoughts correctly, but I hope you will see where I am going???

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190549 PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:36 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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I would however please ask people not to contact the DVLA for classification if they are not intending to import one as these enquiries can only make things more and more difficult for people who genuinely want to import one.

Please don't take offence but I have just been through the DVLA procedure today.

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190608 PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:56 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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I think in a situation such as this, it is evidence that is the key, you can't accuse a government agency of something unless you have plenty of evidence to back it up.

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190628 PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:34 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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What Direct Gov say's is:-

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The size of the motorhome
The maximum size of a motorhome allowed in Great Britain is 12m in length and 2.55m in width. There is no maximum limit on the height, but if the vehicle is more than 3m tall, then the height must be measured and displayed (in imperial units and preferably metric as well) on a notice clearly visible to you as the driver.
Parts of the vehicle that can be ignored when measuring overall width and length
For width ignoe:
driving mirrors
lamps
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distortion in tyres due to loading
For length ignore:
driving mirrors
rearward projecting buffers made of rubber or other resilient material


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No plans to change the law

DfT has no plans to change the law on the maximum dimensions of a motorhome, or indeed of any other vehicle.


So i think anything Eric at Ichy feet says is hearsay at best Rolling Eyes

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I'm with Snelly's last post on this one. (Thanks John(RR) - only a couple of days ago I was looking for that DfT "no plans to change the law" that I was aware of but couldn't find again).

"bent" and conspiracy theory charges against the DVLA are a bit strong. I know a little about the public sector and while incompetence is rife, corruption is thankfully extremely rare.

So I will re-iterate my call for evidence (and I wouldn't give any credence to ItchyFeet's site by acknowledging there was any on there!) and back it up by saying:

1) If DVLA registration of a private importer of a certain model/year RV has been rejected on grounds of overall dimensions, and the same one has subsequently been successfully registered by a large dealer, and if on width grounds that model has a sidewall-to-sidewall dimension ovr 2.55m (because the individual may not have removed items the dealer did), then I welcome the opportunity to help that personal importer recover the situation or seek redress.

I am aware, as I have said before, that the DVLA registration does not certify the vehicle is road legal in the UK. But they SHOULD apply consistent standards.

2) If any purchaser from a large dealer of an RV with sidewall-to-sidewall dimension over 2.55m wishes to seek redress for being sold an illegal vehicle, I am willing to assist them provided they pursue the matter using the Road Traffic Act (and not the Sales of Goods Act - groan, what a lost opportunity that was).

And if the situation is not clearer by the Peterborough show, I'm going to take a tape measure and have some fun.

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Not wishing to go off topic as I hope you see the relevance, what is the maximum car length? Is one in place? What about the size of some of the Limousines?
Sorry if you can not see the relevance

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Hi Dab an offence against the Road Traffic Act, surely only the CPS can instigate a prosecution for this sort of offence? After all I can't take you to court for speeding.

I thought that was why in the destination case they went the "sale of goods" way.

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190872 PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 am Thank this member for this post