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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:10 pm |
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Hi
I think they have got it wrong, they shouldn't ban certain breeds just certain types of dog owner.
A dog is what you make it.
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I fully agree. I was always of the impression that Staffordshire Bull Terriers were vicious, and quite honestly, I never liked them anyway, maybe because my step-son's one used to lift his leg all over our house.
My wife and I offered to foster one which had been badly treated, and used to run away every chance it got.
Never in my life have I been so wrong about a breed, as it is the softest, and most affectionate dog I have ever come across. I read recently that the powers that be are considering putting all Bull Terriers on the Dangerous dogs list. I think that as a direct result of the dangerous dogs act, there should be a dangerous and irresponsible owners act.
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My experience with Staffs is that they're wonderfully loyal and affectionate (if not too bright) towards humans it's other dogs that are the problem. Personally I like to see dogs about but I can under stand why site owners might get heartily sick of the extra hassle. It's not just dealing with the dogs it's the squabbling humans. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:38 pm |
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ive noticed there does seem to be more sites restricting the breeds of dogs that they will allow.
We have kept a Dobermann in the past and he was the softest dog you could wish for however when we took him out amongst other dogs and people (i.e parks) we kept a muzzle on him. This was mainly to satisfy other people. I do believe that any dog can turn given the right conditions. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:16 pm |
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I fully agree that dogs are what the owners make them. Over the years our families have had many kinds of dogs including a doberman and a long haired german shepherd, all soft as butter.
We are currently owned by 4 dogs all rescues, a greyhound, a rottie x border collie, a border collie x spaniel and a wire haired JR, ages range from almost 17 years to 19 months
We have friends that come to visit bringing their own dogs and even with "strange" dogs in our house they are well behaved and friendly. Yes they bark a lot when there is someone at the back gate or the front door but then that is one of the reasons we have them. But then with mad friends and the kids and their mates our house is a kind of open house for lots of people They get lots of practise at friendly
We have been refused camping on some sites because of having 4 dogs but that is the camp sites loss not ours as we tend to camp all over the place and wild camp a fair bit too. Most sites charge for dogs even those without any facilities for them. Would hate to be refused due to a specific breed though. But would hate it even more if an unreliable dog were to hurt a child or another dog.
I think it is an over reaction to the "dangerous" breeds list and the move to try to make some breeds wear muzzles in public places. But then camp sites do have kids running about and shouting, screaming and playing just the sort of noises and actions that can make dogs nervous and could make then jump or snap even if usually out of character
Sorry for your dogs though Shane... by the way just a couple of miles out of Hunstanton on the road to Wells there is a very nice large layby with a little barrier of trees screening it from the road excellent for wild camping even in your new RV We have used it a couple of times when up there in the past even has a phone box!!!
Will be going up there Friday till Monday but might use a campsite this time, if we can find one
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:16 pm |
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How come if they are banned breeds............where are they banned from,.........are you in fact allowed to have them if they are banned.
Just seems a silly title BANNED BREEDS...............
Not having a go Snelly, just inquisitive, I have a German Shepherd Cross.
and I wouldn't want him Banned............except from sitting on the upholstery during a muddy spell
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my german shepherd cross was banned from searles hunstanton.later when i saw where the site was situated i thanked god he had been banned. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:00 am |
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A dog's character is formed in the very early weeks of its life. so a lot is down to the breeder (though try telling them that) and the rest is down to the new owner taking the trouble to socialise and habituate the puppy to the, very scary, world that dogs now inhabit.
I always say if I was Prime Minister I would insist that all breeders had to take their puppies back if, for any reason, they needed to be re-homed. That would stop most of them in their tracks!! It would also ensure that they were much more careful about the homes they let their puppies go to in the first place.
Whew! Feel better now.
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:48 am |
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One cannot possibly generalise and say that a certain breed is/can be viscious which really makes me question the banning of certain breeds!
All dogs have a temperament that varies!! Come to that, so do owners!!
A Yorkie can bite and snarl (not our sweet young ladies!!) whereas a Dobbie/Rottie whatever can smother you with kisses! |
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:20 pm |
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Yes a lot of sites now ban certain breeds, including GSD and dobies, which annoys the life out of me, as if kept under control they are no more liable to cause bother than my dopey dane.....
I can understand why these places like Searles are banning certain dogs, it seems to me to be more to do with the owners of the dogs...!! I live not too far from there and lets just say you get 'all types' on there, and the nicer people are usually to be found in the caravan/m/home section!
We often pop on there for the night, as it makes a good base when we want to walk the dog along the beaches etc; |
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:42 pm |
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Just a few comments from the other side of the "campsites banning dogs" discussion from a dog lover who also manages a campsite.
We've owned all sorts of dogs in the past - including a German Shepherd - and all have been nice natured. Several have been rescue dogs and we currently have a soppy spaniel. We welcome dogs on our site....HOWEVER......early this season we had a dog-owner with a Dobermann which decided to attack the tractor I was driving at the time. It ran the length of a field to do it and seeing it flying across the field snarling almost cured my constipation until I realised that it was aiming at the tyres. I also had a Yorkie on site that tried to take a lump out of my leg and a sheltie that wasn't too well disposed towards me either. The point being that any breed of dog can be vicious given the wrong upbringing but we can't screen each owner in advance. Being attacked by a vicious Yorkie is a nuisance - being attacked by a Rottwieler, Doberman or German Shepherd could result in serious damage.
There have been times this season when even I, a confirmed dog-lover, would cheerfully have banned all dogs from the site after having picked up yet another steaming heap left behind by a thoughtless owner (actually, the dogs leave the heaps but you know what I mean!)
Maybe the site in question has had one too many kids bitten and had been told by their insurance company that if they didn't take some steps to address the problem their Public Liability insurance would rise dramatically. You can't screen out the bad owners but you can avoid dogs with the greatest potential for causing damage.
It's an emotive issue but when you see, as I did this season, an owner watching happily as her dog deposited a large heap at the base of the slide in the children's play area (and we have no less that 3 official dog walks that she could have taken the dog to) you tend to become a little annoyed.
You get a little cross too when someone uses a shower cubicle to wash their mutt and leaves the shower clogged with mud and dog hair - not to mention the muddy paw-prints across the floor which they left on the way in.
99 percent of dogs (and their owners) are lovely. The other 1 percent are the ones that get the rest a bad name and drive people who run sites to ban certain breeds or, God forbid, all dogs. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:13 pm |
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Just a few comments from the other side of the "campsites banning dogs" discussion from a dog lover who also manages a campsite.
There have been times this season when even I, a confirmed dog-lover, would cheerfully have banned all dogs from the site after having picked up yet another steaming heap left behind by a thoughtless owner (actually, the dogs leave the heaps but you know what I mean!)
It's an emotive issue but when you see, as I did this season, an owner watching happily as her dog deposited a large heap at the base of the slide in the children's play area (and we have no less that 3 official dog walks that she could have taken the dog to) you tend to become a little annoyed.
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If these people were somehow named and shamed or even banned from sites maybe that could help, i know in Nowich where we stayed if they caught anybody not clearing up after their dog they were asked to leave, it gets my vote.
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