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Fiat 3ltr Exhaust Smoke
393830 PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:56 am Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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I have a 9/2007 Ducato that leaves a trail of BLACK SMOKE when changing gears and re-accelerating.
Changing up or down no different.
It is an Australia delivered model and has the exhaust outlet on the offside.(RHD)
If you can't pick it up in your outside mirror get a mate to follow in a car-
Looks a bit like an old Albion bus at work.
Other times (ie. not changing gear)up hill and down dale - exhaust is clear.
I may be the only one with this problem,but I doubt it.
I also have the water ingress etc. problems.
I would really appreciate any feed back.
Regards,Bill, Southport,Australia
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393834 PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:03 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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Black smoke is a sign of unburnt fuel.The most common fault for this is the turbo, however as it is nearly new I would suggest that the engine management needs re-setting, take it to the main dealers and get it plugged into their diagnostic machine, that will show up what is wrong.There is a list of recalls for the Fiat Decato that they should have as well.

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Snap ! I followed my husband yesterday to take the van for first service and had to drop back. It looked like it was burning coal and the smoke appears in exactly the circumstances you report.

Ours is a 2007 Ducato 2.2 litre ( X250 - 130 multijet)

The service garage were told and say that it is probably due to the fact that we have not used it for some time and condenstion has formed in the catalytic convertor. It can take some time to blow out they say. They are going to do emissions checks on it and we'll let you know the results.

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an 'Italian' tune up can be useful Wink


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johng1974 wrote:
an 'Italian' tune up can be useful Wink
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it seems often with deisels that they need to be given full throttle for a while, if they have not been sitting unused..


Say 3rd 4th gear for a min.. get the motor warmed up first Smile



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Give it some stick! Warm the thing up well and then rev it through the gears. About 3-3500 revs, depending where your red line is on the Tacho. H
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johng1974 wrote:
it seems often with deisels that they need to be given full throttle for a while, if they have not been sitting unused..
Say 3rd 4th gear for a min.. get the motor warmed up first Smile
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Looks like the garage could be right then John, thanks. It's a 20 mile trip to the garage and it was still doing right to the forecourt so I would have thought enough revving had been done however.

I'm rapidly losing what little faith I had in Fiat. the garage can't get hold of a replacement oil filter ( it is non-standard ) and, despite the service having been booked for nearly 2 months now, the scuttle has still not arrived. We are told that the engine cover has been fitted however.

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Hello,

Same thing with my Euro III VW T5.

Accelerate with even the slightest use of Torque and smoke belows from the back. In the dark with a car following with lights on, it reminds me of my old Morris Marina that had piston slack and burnt a sump of oil nearly as fast as tank of petrol.

VW say no fault!

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Thanks Cabby,We have only done about 3000 km.but the Fiat has had some reasonably hard work, without abuse.Certainly hard enough for it not to be coked up.
Our first trip we travelled about 700 km. each way with a fair range of moderately hilly country to 100 kph Main undulating road travel.
I have owned a lot of diesel machinery and vehicles over the years, but am not too familiar with EFI diesels.
My previous MH was an identical Jayco on the previous 2.8 litre Fiat.We did a round Australia in that one,and even with about 25% less torque than the new 3 Litre it did the job ok.
Our local Fiat dealer who has just done the 3 recalls-5247-5248 and 5221 says our smoke problem is not any worse that any others.
The thing is - I ha