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Barmouth/Gwynedd - Bad News!
423132 PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:27 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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My edition of todays Cambrian News contains a large article concerning camper vans parking on the prom in Barmouth.

I quote and paraphrase:-

Stricter bye-laws are being processed by Gwynedd Council and will be in place by Whitsun.

Gwynedd Council's legal department would have the bye-laws in place by Whitsun to stop camper vans using the promenade or the parking grounds overnight as a camp site.

The bye-laws will be in place, signs erected and there will be enforcement.

White lines will be painted on the promenade, with vehicles having to park within the lines.
These lines will be large enough for cars but not the huge camper vans that use the promenade.


Whitsun is actually this Sunday, Pentecost, 11th May 2008.
I think that they are making the usual error of confusing the religious festival with the Late Spring Bank Holiday!!

I get the feeling that Gwynedd Council does not want any camper vans anywhere in the county.
Am I being cynical in connecting this with the fact that a good proportion of County Councillors are farmers - who just happen to run campsites as well?!!

Incidentally I quizzed my local County Councillor on the hustings about what she was going to do about facilities & aires for camper vans.
I was treated with some disdain with the retort that camper vans should use campsites.
Guess what - she runs a campsite!!!!!

How do we get across the fact that motorhomers value freedom, that it is not always practicable to book ahead or to arrive before 20:00 and that most of the facilities provided (and charged for) by a campsite are not required.

In fact there is a trend away from campsites for tenters/tuggers/MHers as greedy site owners convert pitches into static "mobile" home pitches.

We live on this holiday coast and it is depressing to see acres and acres of regimented static roofs.
Why pretend that they are "mobile" (except when they clog up our narrow roads when being transported), why not just build nice conventional houses.
Far less intrusive is the constantly changing kaleidescope of tents, caravans and motorhomes on a traditional site.

Must take my blood pressure tablets before my veins burst!

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423135 PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:38 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote
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By the way, if you are the owner of a Hymer van with the registration mark

J200 00?
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?353 ENP

then you will be pleased to know that your vans are shown prominently in the accompanying photo of the Prom.

Nowhere in the article does it give any indication as to where or if vehicles too large to fit in a car-sized white-line-marked space will be able to park in future.

Croeso i Gymru? I think not!

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Another reason why more and more of us now prefer to jump on a ferry and enjoy the continent, its cheaper to do that and have a month abroad then it is to go down to Cornwall or Wales and book on a site for a fortnight.
Its called greed and seems indemic in the UK with campsites charging the earth for a very basic site.
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It seems to me that those days are numbered for the greedy site owner due to fuel costs

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Its just typical of councils, they usually shoot themselves in the foot,

it will mean that they will have less people spending money in their area,

do they actually know how many members we have on here, and thats not counting the motorhomers who haven't joined us yet. I personally know of a few.

I suppose we will give Barmouth a miss then,
although we could go and park on the front anyway as we do fit in a car space, I wonder what they will do then Laughing Laughing

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Most car parks in Caernarfon (Gwynedd!) have signs prohibiting motorhomes from parking in them during the day!

I suspect that the same restrictions will apply in Barmouth.

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Maybe they do not know the difference between a caravan and a motrhome. What is our road fund licience for??????????

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04HBG wrote:
Another reason why more and more of us now prefer to jump on a ferry and enjoy the continent, its cheaper to do that and have a month abroad then it is to go down to Cornwall or Wales and book on a site for a fortnight.
Its called greed and seems indemic in the UK with campsites charging the earth for a very basic site.


Hear Hear
Many years ago we stopped on the car park at barmouth. Early in the evening we were shot at with an air rifle. They targeted the gas locker i suppose hoping that they would blow the van up.

For some reason the councils of this country have an aversion to camper vans parking up. Enjoying the view, paronising the local shops and leaving little if any evidence of their existance, but are quite willing to let gangs of yobs roam the streets and have burn ups on the same car parks whilst drinking.

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So sad to hear that we want to turn MH's away from our local economy, i dont MH any more as most of you will know but i do live in that area (Llandudno) I can see both sides of the coin and alot of the prices in the campsites are expensive due to high council tax/rates etc so i don't just think its greed.

I personally don't see a problem with parking on a prom (they could even make you pay a small charge and we would still be happy).

Sorry to say i think this will happen everywhere eventually as the problem lies with people/councillors that don't like/know anything about the average MH'er.
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