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Iknow this, to get to morocco you must transit Spain! and Its not legal to tow a car . It must be on a Grua (car transporter) in fact a trailer must be registered and plated with its own papers and number. lots of M/Hs get away with it. Spanish drivers are not used to seeing vehicles being towed! so be aware. DO you need to tow a car? we have a fantastic bus service in Spain, its very cheap and all have Air con and mostly new.
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This is a load of old tosh, regurgitated time and time again. Take no notice. There has not been one FACTUAL case as far as I can research, where a BRITISH REGISTERED vehicle towing an A-frame through Europe has got into trouble. I read lots of anecdotal tosh like this. Sorry, it makes my blood boil.
Please give me PROOF and EVIDENCE that a British M/Hr has been fined (where the fine stuck) or was arrested for towing an A-Frame and I will apologise. Until then....shut up!
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:33 pm |
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I am going to use a towed and bought a secondhand A frame, with it came a pile of interesting literature concerning the legalities,
From Norway stating the Vienna convention (OK if legal in UK)
Dismissal of fine from Spain.
Letter from an MP, When using a towing frame the towed car is converted to a trailer. It should not be viewed as a car when on tow, it carries the same reg as the towing vehicle and the lights are operated by the towing vehicle.
I for one shall use an A frame with a clear conscience
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:37 pm |
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I am going to use a towed and bought a secondhand A frame, with it came a pile of interesting literature concerning the legalities,
From Norway stating the Vienna convention (OK if legal in UK)
Dismissal of fine from Spain.
Letter from an MP, When using a towing frame the towed car is converted to a trailer. It should not be viewed as a car when on tow, it carries the same reg as the towing vehicle and the lights are operated by the towing vehicle.
I for one shall use an A frame with a clear conscience
Loddy
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Thank you, Loddy!
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:49 am |
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Hmm!
Without getting into BIG arguments I believe that without exception 'A' Frames are not legal in the UK or any part of Europe!
Whilst a lot of us use them, that does not, of course make them legal, only that it is one of those laws that the legal system (police) choose to ignore.
I recall someone actually putting the legal reference on the forum, but I do not have the time to search for it at the moment.
I am reasonably certain this is true, because I was going to get an 'A' frame for Libby and then discovered this information. I have since found someone who can make a small trailer for Libby at about £1,000, which is not much more than the very good 'A' frames I was looking at!
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Hi can you tell us how safe can you load and secure your car on to your trailer and most trailers only have two wheels on the road where as on an a frame the car is more stable on all four wheels and not so top heavy |
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Re: a frame |
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:00 am |
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Iknow this, to get to morocco you must transit Spain! and Its not legal to tow a car . It must be on a Grua (car transporter) in fact a trailer must be registered and plated with its own papers and number. lots of M/Hs get away with it. Spanish drivers are not used to seeing vehicles being towed! so be aware. DO you need to tow a car? we have a fantastic bus service in Spain, its very cheap and all have Air con and mostly new.
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This is a load of old tosh, regurgitated time and time again. Take no notice. There has not been one FACTUAL case as far as I can research, where a BRITISH REGISTERED vehicle towing an A-frame through Europe has got into trouble. I read lots of anecdotal tosh like this. Sorry, it makes my blood boil.
Please give me PROOF and EVIDENCE that a British M/Hr has been fined (where the fine stuck) or was arrested for towing an A-Frame and I will apologise. Until then....shut up!
Go forth and tow.
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Hi you are quite right in Girona there was a case 0n 22.11.96 there was a motor homer taken to court and the fine was dismissed |
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:27 am |
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in Girona there was a case 0n 22.11.96 there was a motor homer taken to court and the fine was dismissed
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In Turkey in BC 1564, there was a case where a guy was done for overloading his boat with all sorts of animals during a flood, but Noah further action was taken.
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:17 pm |
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Re: a frame |
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:13 pm |
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in Girona there was a case 0n 22.11.96 there was a motor homer taken to court and the fine was dismissed
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In Turkey in BC 1564, there was a case where a guy was done for overloading his boat with all sorts of animals during a flood, but Noah further action was taken.
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Hi Dougie you dont like sensible conversation, but i have a copy of the court dismissal document which answers the comment in what way is your comment relevent to 2008 motorhome forum |
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Re: a frame |
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