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aultymer

You learn fast - I will grant that - does your husband know you are using his computer?

gaspode · Moderator

OK folks

This thread has gone quite far enough off topic and seems to me to be verging on abusive. Rolling Eyes

Can we please return to topic immediately?

aultymer

I think the problem is Gaspode, that the topic was exhausted some time ago and it is now just a few weary souls passing the time of day, or night, with some gratuitous but basicly friendly insults.
Point taken though, I'm gone.

wildman2

I need no lessons in manners from Sassenachs who bathe their hooves in highland blood.
As far as my general comment on education - if the foo sh1ts, wear it.

It appears to me you do. Shocked

And for the record I am one of those people who have no problem saving pounds, using common sense and a refill adapter. Funny, something I though canny Scots were famous for.

aultymer

Out of respect for my promise to Gaspode I will refrain from commenting on the above non tenner paying members comment.

AberdeenAngus

I have read what you said about re-filling calor bottles and I hope you don't mind if I put in my 2p worth

The problem with people is that we make mistakes. Some of us more often than others Smile

There has been extensive research on human error rates. Time and again the results are the same - we all make mistakes, all the time.
It's not enough to say, "but I will be careful", that won't eliminate the errors, just reduce the error rate, and then only temporarily.

Error rates for this type of occassional, untraineed, work activity are in the range of a few percent.
So, it's not a problem until lots of people are doing it, then you'll start getting quite a few mistakes.

The main problem as I see it, is over filling tanks then leaving them in a nice hot gas cupboard. With no ullage space, pressures will climb rapidly.

Your regulator has an over pressure relief built in, which will vent the (quite considerable) excess to atmosphere.
At best, this has solved the problem, but as once cracked, these reliefs usually never re-seat properly (the seal hardens) and a new regulator is required.
At worst, the vented gas could ignite, resulting in a very serious situation as any increase in heat would result in a large amounts of additional gas vented off as the pressure tries to rise still further.

You can see the possible consequences of this here...

AberdeenAngus

[quote="wildman2And for the record I am one of those people who have no problem saving pounds, using common sense and a refill adapter. Funny, something I though canny Scots were famous for.[/quote]

You're joking, that's just us tight Aberdonians. Most Scots canna keep the money in their pocket. Try getting a Weegie tae let you buy a drink and you've got a fight on yer hands.

maddie

Hi Angus (MSc Safety Engineering & Risk Management)What are the risks of floats pipes and joint's going wrong ? in your assessment? Laughing

edit NONE of whitch are used with an adapter.
terry

AberdeenAngus

Less than the chance of a person getting it wrong.

I know kit fails, but we do what we can to prevent it.
I would say that for a properly maintained installation, used in accordance with the manufacturers recommendations, the probability of failure is extremely low.