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Could I please ask a simple question without getting shot down by the anti Swift brigade.
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1. Could Nuke please put in Sub Forums so each base vehicle has it's own folder. Fiat, Ford...etc.
2. Could everyone that has something to say about a base vehicle post in the relevant folder.
3. Could we comment in the Swift forum points related to Swift. Other convertors have exclusive folders. So please use them.
4. Could the anti Swift brigade post actual fact so that the Swift team are able to comment. (Have you not noticed, they do not comment if they have nothing to say)
5. We part exchanged our HYMER B544L for my Swift Bolero and we are glad we did. It is a quality van at 2/3rds of the price. But not 2/3rds of the quality. £60,000 as opposed to £40,000 is a no brainer for us.
6. We have a conversion warranty that is equal to, or better than the others, unless you can prove me wrong.
7. We have got a 3yr warranty on the Fiat and it covers the gearbox. How many yrs is a Merc, Ford...etc?
What I am trying to say is:
8. Could you please stop trying to spoil what Swift are trying to achieve?
Let them try to give an excellent service (I and many are feeling the benefit of it)
If you feel I am giving a false representation on the service we as Swift customers are receiving then.
Contact the majority of customers that are happy with Swift. Not the few who for whatever reason feel they are getting a crap service. (Please ask them why)
Enough said,
The main points are
Put your postings in the correct folder
Steve
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Could I please ask a simple question without getting shot down by the anti Swift brigade.
On this website we have a base vehicle forum
Only registered users can see links on our Forum Join Now or Login
1. Could Nuke please put in Sub Forums so each base vehicle has it's own folder. Fiat, Ford...etc.
2. Could everyone that has something to say about a base vehicle post in the relevant folder.
3. Could we comment in the Swift forum points related to Swift. Other convertors have exclusive folders. So please use them.
4. Could the anti Swift brigade post actual fact so that the Swift team are able to comment. (Have you not noticed, they do not comment if they have nothing to say)
5. We part exchanged our HYMER B544L for my Swift Bolero and we are glad we did. It is a quality van at 2/3rds of the price. But not 2/3rds of the quality. £60,000 as opposed to £40,000 is a no brainer for us.
6. We have a conversion warranty that is equal to, or better than the others, unless you can prove me wrong.
7. We have got a 3yr warranty on the Fiat and it covers the gearbox. How many yrs is a Merc, Ford...etc?
What I am trying to say is:
8. Could you please stop trying to spoil what Swift are trying to achieve?
Let them try to give an excellent service (I and many are feeling the benefit of it)
If you feel I am giving a false representation on the service we as Swift customers are receiving then.
Contact the majority of customers that are happy with Swift. Not the few who for whatever reason feel they are getting a crap service. (Please ask them why)
Enough said,
The main points are
Put your postings in the correct folder
Steve
Steve, with respect, the problem is that so many of the vehicles are related and share common components.
(1) Fiat, Peugeot Renault and Citroen are all made in the same factory and share the same basic chassis with common gearboxes (I think)
(2) Ford and Peugeot have a common engine.
(3) Ford and Iveco share common engines.
(4) The new VW van looks very much like the new Transit
My spin on the base units is that I would prefer to see all the information on the base units on the same group as there are lessons to be learned.
I have a Peugeot so why should |I look on a Ford thread yet I have been seriously thinking that my next van should be a Transit based base unit but here we have words of warning from Johna.
And I don’t approve of bashing Swift but they should use Peugeot as we Peugeot customers have much better service that FIART customers. howver to Swift's credit they do make some effort unlike the Explorer Group who are dead from the scrotum up (woops sorry)
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Could I please ask a simple question without getting shot down by the anti Swift brigade.
On this website we have a base vehicle forum
Only registered users can see links on our Forum Join Now or Login
1. Could Nuke please put in Sub Forums so each base vehicle has it's own folder. Fiat, Ford...etc.
2. Could everyone that has something to say about a base vehicle post in the relevant folder.
3. Could we comment in the Swift forum points related to Swift. Other convertors have exclusive folders. So please use them.
4. Could the anti Swift brigade post actual fact so that the Swift team are able to comment. (Have you not noticed, they do not comment if they have nothing to say)
5. We part exchanged our HYMER B544L for my Swift Bolero and we are glad we did. It is a quality van at 2/3rds of the price. But not 2/3rds of the quality. £60,000 as opposed to £40,000 is a no brainer for us.
6. We have a conversion warranty that is equal to, or better than the others, unless you can prove me wrong.
7. We have got a 3yr warranty on the Fiat and it covers the gearbox. How many yrs is a Merc, Ford...etc?
What I am trying to say is:
8. Could you please stop trying to spoil what Swift are trying to achieve?
Let them try to give an excellent service (I and many are feeling the benefit of it)
If you feel I am giving a false representation on the service we as Swift customers are receiving then.
Contact the majority of customers that are happy with Swift. Not the few who for whatever reason feel they are getting a crap service. (Please ask them why)
Enough said,
The main points are
Put your postings in the correct folder
Steve
Steve, with respect, the problem is that so many of the vehicles are related and share common components.
(1) Fiat, Peugeot Renault and Citroen are all made in the same factory and share the same basic chassis with common gearboxes (I think)
(2) Ford and Peugeot have a common engine.
(3) Ford and Iveco share common engines.
(4) The new VW van looks very much like the new Transit
My spin on the base units is that I would prefer to see all the information on the base units on the same group as there are lessons to be learned.
I have a Peugeot so why should |I look on a Ford thread yet I have been seriously thinking that my next van should be a Transit based base unit but here we have words of warning from Johna.
And I don’t approve of bashing Swift but they should use Peugeot as we Peugeot customers have much better service that FIART customers. howver to Swift's credit they do make some effort unlike the Explorer Group who are dead from the scrotum up (woops sorry)
John,
1 Answer until the morning at least.
Quote:
(1) Fiat, Peugeot Renault and Citroen are all made in the same factory and share the same basic chassis with common gearboxes (I think)
Post them in that folder and not Swift
So
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SEE what I mean?
Steve
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I have this week ordered a Swift motorhome sitting nicely on a 3.0 Fiat. I have absolutely no worries in respect of either.
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So Fiat have produced a chassis that is better than all the fiat chassis that went before that doesn't mean that Swift should use them. I am willing to bet the real reason is the heavily discounted cost to Swift of any Fiat chassis bought in sufficient numbers - I could get a discount for just buying one!!
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Could I please ask a simple question without getting shot down by the anti Swift brigade.
On this website we have a base vehicle forum
Only registered users can see links on our Forum Join Now or Login
1. Could Nuke please put in Sub Forums so each base vehicle has it's own folder. Fiat, Ford...etc.
2. Could everyone that has something to say about a base vehicle post in the relevant folder.
3. Could we comment in the Swift forum points related to Swift. Other convertors have exclusive folders. So please use them.
4. Could the anti Swift brigade post actual fact so that the Swift team are able to comment. (Have you not noticed, they do not comment if they have nothing to say)
5. We part exchanged our HYMER B544L for my Swift Bolero and we are glad we did. It is a quality van at 2/3rds of the price. But not 2/3rds of the quality. £60,000 as opposed to £40,000 is a no brainer for us.
6. We have a conversion warranty that is equal to, or better than the others, unless you can prove me wrong.
7. We have got a 3yr warranty on the Fiat and it covers the gearbox. How many yrs is a Merc, Ford...etc?
What I am trying to say is:
8. Could you please stop trying to spoil what Swift are trying to achieve?
Let them try to give an excellent service (I and many are feeling the benefit of it)
If you feel I am giving a false representation on the service we as Swift customers are receiving then.
Contact the majority of customers that are happy with Swift. Not the few who for whatever reason feel they are getting a crap service. (Please ask them why)
Enough said,
The main points are
Put your postings in the correct folder
Steve
Steve, with respect, the problem is that so many of the vehicles are related and share common components.
(1) Fiat, Peugeot Renault and Citroen are all made in the same factory and share the same basic chassis with common gearboxes (I think)
(2) Ford and Peugeot have a common engine.
(3) Ford and Iveco share common engines.
(4) The new VW van looks very much like the new Transit
My spin on the base units is that I would prefer to see all the information on the base units on the same group as there are lessons to be learned.
I have a Peugeot so why should |I look on a Ford thread yet I have been seriously thinking that my next van should be a Transit based base unit but here we have words of warning from Johna.
And I don’t approve of bashing Swift but they should use Peugeot as we Peugeot customers have much better service that FIART customers. howver to Swift's credit they do make some effort unlike the Explorer Group who are dead from the scrotum up (woops sorry)
I think you're on slightly the wrong track as far as the VW Crafter and the Transit are concerned, although I agree there are styling similarities.
In fact the VW relationship is actually with Mercedes for these vans and they're a rebadged Mercedes Sprinter. Both are built in the same factory.
I really can't get my head round these 'plant sharing' deals that have spread through the motor industry. With EU regulations being very tight about monopolistic, anti competitive practices by business, how do they get away with it?
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