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Andysam.

There is no defence for Chinese scooters when it comes to power(and the original post was about scooters).Chinese scooters are restricted by power.I had a Kinroad chopper 50cc with a manual gearbox,the engine in these is used in almost all Chinese 50cc mopeds and is a copy of a Honda 50 engine which is easily capable of 50mph,but the big difference is, the chinese version is fitted with smaller intake and exhaust valves, thus restricting the power.To derestrict these engines is not economically viable as it involves replacing the complete cylinder head.This is why savvy young scooter riders own european 50cc. scooters that can easily be derestricted and are then capable of 50mph.+

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Interesting , backaxle..

Sue no worries I am rarely correct and regret most of what I post , notwithstanding the thousands of posts that I write then delete Laughing Laughing

A case in point is a colleague... he passed his main bike test but was restricted to 33HP..

He had a 900 fireblade and that was restricted Laughing sacrilege

annoyingly he finally did the 2 year probation and even then didn't remove whatever had been fitted to limit to 33HP.. then he sold it never knowing what a full power 900 would have felt like ... (not a criticism, but a shame)

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backaxle wrote:
Andysam.

There is no defence for Chinese scooters when it comes to power(and the original post was about scooters).Chinese scooters are restricted by power.I had a Kinroad chopper 50cc with a manual gearbox,the engine in these is used in almost all Chinese 50cc mopeds and is a copy of a Honda 50 engine which is easily capable of 50mph,but the big difference is, the chinese version is fitted with smaller intake and exhaust valves, thus restricting the power.To derestrict these engines is not economically viable as it involves replacing the complete cylinder head.This is why savvy young scooter riders own european 50cc. scooters that can easily be derestricted and are then capable of 50mph.+

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My post wasn't in relation to power- derestricted or not a 49cc is not up to the job of regular 2 up use.
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My post wasn't in relation to power- derestricted or not a 49cc is not up to the job of regular 2 up use.[/quote]

No,but the original post was! and somehow chinese bikes have crept into the thread.I am trying to answer the original question.The poster just wants a scooter to run around on when he is away in his MH, and in my humble opinion and experience a European,not chinese, 2 stroke 50cc. restricted or not, is capable of his needs and budget

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We have had a 50cc Yamaha Jog RR for about 3 years which we put in the garage on our 7.3m 4.5ton low profile. Great little beast. It was restricted when I picked it up and so would do no more than 30mph. I gave it back and told them to derestrict it. it will now do 45mph with us both on (60kg each). ~We access steep mountain roads on it for getting to starts of walks, no problem. Also super for supermarkets where we load it down with oodles of beer and shopping. Its so light I can lift it into the garage on my own - don't bother with a ramp - one less thing to carry. And still room for our 2 mountain bikes. We would be lost without it.

I took my motorbike test on it so that I could carry partner pillion. Twist and go - wonderful.

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How much of an increase on your insurance was it for the derestriction?
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I reported the derestriction to my insurers but they did not increase the premium.
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Hi

Anyone have any knowledge of an Aprilla 50 cc?

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Hi All,

thanks for the comments and views etc. As I said earlier I do have a full bike license but only want to potter around a little if the mood takes us particularly if the missus isn't up to peddling. It won't get used much and needs to be light and as I say I can't really justify spending £000's on something that would get used maybe 3 or 4 times a year. It would be cheaper to use taxi's.

I'm going to try out both 4 and 2 stroke models and see what its like and if at the end of the day they don't have enough power then I will either get a higher capacity or abandon the idea if weight is too much

Pete