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My autotrail miami rear axle max weight is 2060KG and I have just had it weighed and rear axle weight is 2280 KG and that is without water and only with 2 gall diesel , it does have a standard fitted spare wheel and a fitted tow bar and a few very light items in garage, if I fit air suspension bags in rear suspension will this make the excess weight OK, and if so at what pressure
GEOMAR
PS I can't see how I can reduce the weight HELP
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My autotrail miami rear axle max weight is 2060KG and I have just had it weighed and rear axle weight is 2280 KG and that is without water and only with 2 gall diesel , it does have a standard fitted spare wheel and a fitted tow bar and a few very light items in garage, if I fit air suspension bags in rear suspension will this make the excess weight OK, and if so at what pressure
GEOMAR
PS I can't see how I can reduce the weight HELP
I can only speak from my experience of investigating getting my MH uprated. SVtech were willing to upgrade the maximum weight from 3500kg to 3850kg if air suspension was fitted but there would be no increase in individual axleweight limits.
In any event no matter what you do as long as the axle weight exceeds the plated limit you are illegal. Fitting any device will not reduce the weight and may increase it as air suspension units are not light.
I wonder how accurate your weighbridge was. What is it certified as. Most are designed to weigh 30 - 40 tonne lorries and are notoriously inaccurate at low weights such as 2,000kg.
see what they say regarding accuracy:
Accuracy: Not all ways of expressing accuracy are comparable. Some equipment Will claim +/- 'x'% while others claim +/-% full scale deflection. If a weigher has 1% full-scale deflection and full scale is say 40 tonnes, then this in equivalent to +/- 0.4 tonnes. However it could also mean +/- 0.4 tonnes at a weight of 20 tonnes or even 10 tonnes.
I believe that if you are overweight....you are overweight!
No doubt the vehicle can be replated to give a higher payload but I'm not sure if this uprates the actual individual axle weights.
Hope someone can give an authoritive answer.
Good Luck
______________________________________________________________ Ted.
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what was it before your towbar ws fitted? ie was it within the plated weight before fitting the towbar? You may have to remove the towbar to make it "legal"
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Hi Bognormike Inever had it weighed before fitting towbar, but checked with supplier and he tells me it weighs 56KG
GEOMAR
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Hi Bognormike Inever had it weighed before fitting towbar, but checked with supplier and he tells me it weighs 56KG
GEOMAR
I have to concur with EJB - get a second opinion!
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I would take all the non-standard stuff out, everything that's not in it when it's delivered new and weigh it on a few weighbridges or try to find somewhere where they can be sure of the accuracy. Don't remove the tow bar for the moment as you know the weight of that.
With several weights you could take an average, say five or six minimum.
Then if you find that you are still over or have an unreasonably low payload I would go back to Autotrail, regardless of the age of the van and ask for their help. If they will not help or cannot provide a solution I would then take legal advice.
The more recent the van van the easier this should be.
For now I might research to see if there are any options to help increase the plated weight but I would leave it with Autotrail in the first instance, Alan.
Don't forget though that the further rearward any load is the more weight it'll put on the rear axle, as the rear axle acts as a seesaw and takes weight off the front.
In the same way if the diesel and water tanks are quite a way forward it may transfer more weight off the rear to the front when they're full.
Perhaps take the tow bar off, remove anything from the back portion of the camper you can then try again? I'm sure weighbridges have an allowable error, but not too much?
Good luck
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You havent stated what your gross weight was at the weigh in ??
Were you within limits ??
If so and your fuel and water tanks are to the front, having them filled may transfer some of the weight from the rear, in theory !!
I was replated via SV Tech from 3850kg to 4100kg, needed air ride fitted. The rear axle did change on mine from 2100kg to 2300kg...
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