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Fiat Ducato 2.8JTD - different power options?

LittleGreyCat

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Investigating remapping at the moment.

Most sites list the Fiat Ducato 2.8JTD as 127bhp.
Some sites also show a "power" option of 146bhp.
One site, Speedhawk Suppliers lists two variants of the 2.8JTD - 127bhp pre-2000 and 122bhp post-2000.

So how do I know which variant I have in my van?

Fiat Ducato handbook which came with the van quotes 127bhp but this is no guarantee.

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Hi,
If it's 122 bhp then its a TDI and 2000 and before.

If it's 127 bhp then it's a JTD and post 2000

The TDis are harder to tune as they are an older generation of engine

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I v e been sifting through 2.8 RE map companies and what they claim to do.....

One of the strangest annomolies seems to be the fact they claim to re map and adjust the turbo in the process ( by that one would assume they increase the boost pressure as is normal)...

However, on close inspection of 2.8 turbo s i was suprised to see the waste gate (and thus the boost pressure ) is simply controlled by the usual manual diaphram but unusually linked straight back into the turbo pressure side....

http://screencast.com/t/mVTeOiGIgoR8

Doesnt seem to be the normal means of adjusting it or any ability for an "electronic" means to do so....

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The 146 bhp was only available on the LHD due to the larger turbo not fitting the RHD variant (so I was told)

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Jezport wrote:

The 146 bhp was only available on the LHD due to the larger turbo not fitting the RHD variant (so I was told)

That makes sense as my friend at work has a Hymer Tramp GT in left hand drive with the higher power.

I think his front grill has a "power" badge on it to signify.

He had his imported to the uk when he bought it.

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spatz1 wrote:

Have asked the questrion of my local remapper and also on the Fiat forum.

I will try and remember to post any replies I get Smile

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LGC / Bill

122bhp is up to 2002 (Pre-Facelift)

127bhp is 2002 (Facelift) up to 2006

As stated, the 147bhp is only LHD 2002 (Facelift) on.

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fdhadi wrote:

LGC / Bill

122bhp is up to 2002 (Pre-Facelift)

127bhp is 2002 (Facelift) up to 2006

As stated, the 147bhp is only LHD 2002 (Facelift) on.

This makes life even harder Sad

My van is first registered in 2002 but probably a 2001 chassis/engine because of the time taken to put the body on, ship and sell.

Doesn't have the ODB II socket in the cab, but instead a 3 pin connector under the bonnet near the ECU.

Presumably the engine number would show which variant it is if there was someone in Fiat who could look this up. Could a main dealer do this?

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LGC

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They should be able to tell you from the chassis number ....

Now had a close look at my turbo and its tiny compared to my car... Enough room around it to seat 4 for a leisurely meal !

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Hello LGC

The later 2002 Facelift model has a grill (not for cooking Embarassed

) between the headlights.

The earlier 2002 has a metal plate.

Also, the Dashboard is different on each model. The Facelift model has a type of paper clip holder on top.

Pre-Facelift

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Ducato-Van-2-0-JTD-SWB-2004-White-/190549549400?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=ite m2c5da36158

Facelift

http://www.parkers.co.uk/vans/reviews/fiat/ducato-1994.aspx

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