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Currently in the south of France and for some reason I decided to play with the settings on our camos dome. I've never done this before but followed the instructions to tune into some of the other satellites. Hotbird came up ok (rubbish) and I think astra 1. When It got to Sirius it couldn't lock on and then I couldn't change it back for ages. Oh dear I thought (well I said something else but it's a public forum).

Eventually I got it back to the first setting astra 2 N. All the normal channels are back.

I notice however there is an astra 2 S setting which I presume is the south beam?

When and why should it be selected and what's on it. I'm reluctant to press it again but just wondered.

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Have a look on the satellite map and you will see north and south beam. When you get south of Barcelona (I think) then you will have to change to south beam that is what the S is for. You won't get BBC/ITV on the south beam.
 
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UKsatellite TV currently comes from 4 satllites.
Each has different beams, and thus reception characteristics.

Astra 2a has north and south beams
Astra 2b has north and south beams
(also 2a or 2b has a nigerian spot beam also!)
Astra 2D has a single beam
Eurobird 1 has two beams - fixed and steerable.

UK TV channels are transmitted from about 95 frequencies split over these satellites.

These satellites are located at 28.2 to 28.5 degrees east of south.

Depending which channel you have selected will determine which frequency, satellite and beam will be used.

Changing from "north beam" to "south" beam will not help with individual channel reception - although it does help when booting a sky box (changing its default transponder frequency so it can load up its EPG data from a south beam rather than the 11778 norht beam freq if you are unable to get that freq!)

For example, Eurosport 2 is only on one frequency which is on a north beam. You will not be able to receive this any other way. Changing the beams in a receiver from north to south will not "magically" make Eurosport 2 appear - it will not as it is only on a north beam.

The "free to air" BBC and ITV are on Astra 2d.
At the moment there are some ITV1 regions on 11973 - on a south beam - but you need a sky card to "unlock" them.

Even on a 60cm dish you should be able to receive some UK TV channels - especially those on the south beams, as their reception is very generous for europe...infact I can get about 120 south beam channels using a Sky minidish where I am!

So on your receiver, your lists may say A2N and A2S...which may mean the frequencies in those lists are "north" and "south" frequencies. However, many receivers have a "network" search on, so if the reciever sees a frequency table it iwll update its own frequency table with the all live frequencies on the satellite, and so you may find your A2N frequency list has all UK TV frequencies in it now! Which can be proven if you are now getting "south beam" channels (Sky News & BBC News) on your A2N list!
 
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Thanks for the replies and the comprehensive if very technical one from satandpcguy.

We are recieving BBC news and sky news right now with the camos set to astra two north.

So if we switch to astra two south we will loose the normal channels unless we have a sky box but will there be other English channels in there?

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barryd wrote:
We are recieving BBC news and sky news right now with the camos set to astra two north.


Which proves what I said....

BBC News and Sky news are actually located on Astra 2 South.
They are not on Astra 2 North.

So, I suspect your receiver is mixing up confusing and merging north and south beam frequencies in its listings.

Which is getting you all confused.....

Switching between "north and south" on your box should make little difference...as you are already getting the "south beam" channels" - albeit on the "north" listings.

You could change the list name to "Fred Bloggs" and it would not make any difference - as the issue is with the frequency data tables you receiver has for that list - and how, when it has sanned the satellites, it has loaded all frequencies into the list you were scanning - irrespective of if it was north, south , fixed, steerable or 2d....

barryd wrote:
So if we switch to astra two south we will loose the normal channels unless we have a sky box but will there be other English channels in there?


What do you mean by "normal channels"?
If you mean BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4 then you will lose theseif your dish is not big enough to receive them. No amount of swicting "list" will get them back if your dish is too small for where you are to receive them.

Your receiver will get the same channels as a sky box (with no card inserted). A Sky box with no sky card will get the same channels as you are currently getting.
 
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we had our skybox and card with us in northern spain and didn't get any terrestrial channels, we have the KVH in motion system. tried with the sat box that didn't work either! anyway it was good not to have the box for 3 weeks, just switched on to watch sky news every now and again...didn't miss it
 
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antpurley wrote:
we had our skybox and card with us in northern spain and didn't get any terrestrial channels,

you should have gotten the "free to view" versions of ITV1 (on freq 11973) , all the "fives" and maybe even "irish C4s" ( freq 12480) if you added them to your "other channels.
 
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Thanks

it's all working fine at the moment so I think I'll not fiddle with it again. Doesn't seem to be anything worth watching on the other satellites anyway but I suppose if we head to Greece or somewhere we will be able to get the odd news channel and what appears to be a whole load of Arab porn?

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barryd wrote:
Thanks
it's all working fine at the moment ...
... and what appears to be a whole load of Arab porn?


I know a couple of bad jokes (and one clever poem) about sex with a camel

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