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Which Easy Lifter product are you referring to? If it's the Hydra Trail then there has been a big discussion on here of its merits and otherwise. I have one and you have to weigh up the ease of use v a normal trailer and expense etc.
What I will say is that it has been modified and improved since its introduction over a year ago and should now be a reliable package.
Tony at Easy Lifter is a very busy man and may not always answer the phone etc but he has been very honest and straight in his dealings with me.
Why do you say expensive peter? They are often for sale second hand on ebay, bought mine there for £225 and it was basically brand new. Especially if you`ve already got the tow bar which I had because I also use a trailer for the big bike.the Easylifter is a nice bit of kit, really easy to load the scoot on and off, and can be removed in seconds when your not using it.
Only thing I recommend is do your research befor e you buy anything, we`ve just come back from France and whilst there on an Aire was asked by a brit if I would help him unload his scooter, he had a brand new Kontiki tag axle, scooter rack(second hand) been supplied and fitted by the dealer, charged him £1800 and it was an abortion.
He had to lean the scooter out at quite an angle to get it past the fixed post on the rack, then again to get the handle bars past those useless ladders on the back of the Kontiki, he also needed 2 ramps totaling around 10 feet because the rack was too high and his scooter grounded on it with only 1 rack, and this was with a big wheel scooter.
Now I`m sure other people will have other recommendations, and I`m sure you will go through all the calculations of weights etc but if you are in no hurry and get a chance to see a few variations in the flesh then take that oportunity and I`m sure if there`s a member locally to you they would be happy to show you theirs.
Adding the scooter to the mh was one of the best things we`ve done! ps. the pic shows straps which I no longer use, now just 1 over the seat and a ratchet.
Totally agree with whats been said. I had a similar set up to you Tony but when I really worked out the math with leverages and the fact that towballs are only designed to pull not to take the combined downforce of a scoot and the easylifter plus the shear force on two 16mm bolts plus the turning moment on the length and cross section of the tow bar I got rid of the bike and the rack. Always a bit worried about everything disappearing all over the road when one or two links in the 'mechanical chain ' give way. In surance company informed me if this happened they would not be liable as the tow ball isn't being used for what it was designed for.
Now got a bigger scoot (dylan 125) but have purchased the two wheel, castor trailer from Easylifter. Brilliant, even though I have had to make some modifications myself. Insurance now happy, as it is classed as a trailer and the load, whilst running on the road is only 25Kg on the towball
Oh and I didn't think that it was expensive as The French ones are about 3500 euros as opposed to £900
Hi ned, understand exactly what your saying, heavier scoots create a whole new math to the problem, thats why I use the trailer for the big bike, would`nt fancy putting 305kgs on a rack.
You can buy a heavier duty towball to the ordinary ones which takes more weight though and my towbar was made by a friend who has a fabrication company, also supplied all the bolts to aircraft spec. probably a bit overengineered.
The guy with the Kontiki was carrying an Aprilia 300cc too, way too heavy in my mind, I sort of mentioned it was a big scooter for his set-up but didnt pursue it as I didnt want to appear a smart arse.
Thing is that annoys me is this was a brand new mh, surely must have come from a main dealer, have they no scruples or are they just thick, he`d only bought it in april and there had been that many warranty issues he could`nt set off on his trip until june, dealer must have been rubbing his hands together with what he charged him, especially when he proudly showed me his Gaslow system, dealer only charged him £1400 for that.
Next day his wife came round to ask for help as he`d gone off on his scoot and their awning had blown over the mh and broken one of the arms and she could`nt wind it back, bit of a walking disaster eh!
I think the OP needs to decide whether he wants the convenience an easy/hydra lifter and chooses a bike within the carrying capacity of same. Or chooses the bike he wants an looks for a suitable method of carrying same, either rack or trailer.
I looked at the hydra lifter (2 wheel version) did not have the capacity for my bike (over250kg) also the concept has moved on and the carrying bed being a one piece affair for strength and stability will not now fold down and fit in the M/H locker therefore negating a lot of its original attraction.
Ended up with a motolug which has the carrying capacity and will break down easily for stowage, but yes it is a trailer, but hey most things in life are a compromise !
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