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I have been forced into applying a temporary (7 day) ban on a member (seamusog) for his posting style / content.
I for one do not want to be doing this but I have asked the moderators to take a more forceful approach as we enter into the "silly season" which historically runs from around this time of the year until January whereby motorhomers get frustrated at the weather, not using motorhome, S.A.D. or whatever other factors influence our users and tend to "vent" here on MHF against other members.
I hear through the grapevine that some members of MHF have already expressed disquiet at the posting styles of some members, all I would ask is that each member when posting would consider if they would be saying the same thing Face to Face were the other members all in a room together as they are posting "virtually" online.
I also note that some members postings wander more into negative territory as the night progresses, whether this is having a tipple and becoming more brusque in their post content that they might ordinarily be or some other factor, but again please refrain from posting in this way, if you are partaking in a particularly controversial thread then preview your post, read through it again and perhaps come back later before posting as all of these prevent more emotive responses when a more considered approach might be more suited.
The moderators will be taking a much more active approach to negative posts they spot, more thread kicking and no nonsense quick positive action will be the order of the day to ensure we do not have our annual withdrawal from common sense that some members suffer from
On this note, if any member sees a post they consider offensive, breaking site rules then please click the Report icon
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Can we please have a season to be jolly and not a Seasonally affected Disorder one
While I fully recognise the issues that you raise regarding unacceptable material, there is always the risk that someone may be offended by even light hearted stabs at sarcasm as indeed I learnt from a member during the weekend who was hurt by a response at her first attempt to input a message which someone considered to be a silly question and said so in no uncertain terms. This was soon countered by others who defended her corner and the issue died in a fair adult way. I hope that this sort of behaviour is not what you are thinking about, for it was soon quashed (rightly) by more reasonable people.
Whilst I do not object to crude humour or language, I do not believe this is the appropriate forum to air them and would be the first to click the button to get rid of it. There are also on occasions some commercial feet that come treading these pages that could benefit from being locked into isolation.
Whatever stand you take you are always destined to offend someone. I am so glad I am not you!
After I have read any posts to which I have responded, I turn to the 'New Posts'. As I go down the list of posts, I peruse the list of authors.
Some of those posts I will readily read because, in my opinion, the author has a distinct credibility.
And then there are those who have, in my opinion, little credibility and I do not read their posts. Perhaps the member identified by Nuke fits this latter group.
Freedom of speech is NOT an excuse to constantly lower the tone of the MotorhomeFacts Forum and I am happy to see the moderators taking action against offenders. Sad that it is necessary. And YES, I do have a life!!
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While I fully recognise the issues that you raise regarding unacceptable material, there is always the risk that someone may be offended by even light hearted stabs at sarcasm as indeed I learnt from a member during the weekend who was hurt by a response at her first attempt to input a message which someone considered to be a silly question and said so in no uncertain terms. This was soon countered by others who defended her corner and the issue died in a fair adult way. I hope that this sort of behaviour is not what you are thinking about, for it was soon quashed (rightly) by more reasonable people.
Alan
This was just a small example of the kind of thing that has prompted Nuke to make the announcement. The forum has become a no go area for many people who have been put off asking for help or advice in case they receive a patronising unhelpful answer.
What we need is more people to use the report button, multiple reports are helpful in identifying the members who cause disruption to the site.
I wouldn't want to stop controversial posts as these help to make the forum an interesting place to visit and wouldn't want to just have sterile post that discuss the price of bread but there is a balance if we could just find it.Lets get it back to the helpful friendly site that we know it can be.
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It was with some interest I read nuke's announcement. I am not one to make judgement on such a matter as it is his website/forum and how he chooses to run it is his business (quite literally).
However I read through seamusog posts and personally I thought that none of his posts are too bad compared to what I have seen on other forums, mainly those relating to VW Campers. His comments and posts have seemed nothing more than colourful.
Now having met quite a few of the fellow VW owners at various shows has shown me behind the heated arguments, mickey taking and general banter that they on the whole lovely people who have devoted a little time to the same interest that you have.
If everyone was the same, life would be a very boring place and perhaps people should take things said on a forum, on the internet a little more light heartedly.
I hope that everyone gets on but sometimes there are disagreements which can be resolved easily and sometimes not so easily. Usually going off and doing something else does the trick
I agree with mr bricolage. (Im thinking of changing my name to mr super u by the way)
I would hate to see an over sensored forum. I haven't seen what mr sog has been up to lately (I presume it wasn't the corrie thread) but he does add colour. Can't you just modify his membership so they go straight in the bar anyway?
Maybe some more reminders about starting contraversial threads in the bar is needed. I don't think the bat should be censored at all really. It's no longer on the front page. Go in at your own risk and if the bar frequenters want to nock ten bells out of each other over the winter then let em get on with it I say.
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Hi I think colour etc on a forum is no bad thing. Personally Seamsong has never offended or bothered me at all.
Ok for what it's worth the thing that gets me is, I have an I Pad yes I love it, so why do some members feel the need to post to me what a waste of money it is/was etc we all work hard for the things we buy and we wouldn't buy these things if we personally thought we were wasting our money. Yes give advice to someone asking for it, but I just don't feel it is necessary for anyone to criticise something we have already spent our hard earned money on. The same goes for the amount of times I have seen the 'why do you want a tv' type post on here when someone simply asks for satellite/tv advice etc not to mention the use of seat belts. Why should someone have to explain WHY they want a TV in a MH......or indeed choose to tow a car so you may as well tow a caravan type post !
I think as someone has already said........would you do this face to face cos I know I certainly wouldn't .
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I tend also to think some posts are "more colourful than others"
Those that are too colourful for me I pass over and forget
Some views are too one sided but I find them useful as an other point of view
i would not be happy to single out any individual as being "inappropriate" in their humour or viewpoint, that is the job of the mods and I would abide by that decision
My idea of appropriate would not be the same as others neither would my viewpoint on many things
I hold fiercely to my right to express it, but I would not want to hurt anyone intentionally
I don't think in this instance S. did hurt anyone, perhaps their sensibilities, but we can all survive that or as uncle Norman states do not read the posts
Much more important are the instances of genuine care and consideration we find on this forum, and they more than outway the problems
I personally enjoy the more 'colourful' posts and a little bit of healthy debate style posting is often quite interesting to be part of. I don't know if others are like me but very often, my views and opinions can alter when reading and digesting the replies from others and seeing things from other people's viewpoints can offer challenge my own? However, it is not those style posts that cause any serious offence I don't think and most people don't mind a bit of healthy and polite banter. No - it is the personal, sarcastic and often unkind posts that get my goat and it is those kind of posts that really do bring out my horns! However, by and large the vast majority of MHF members are lovely people and those that like to stir up controversy really do stand out like a sore thumb. I suspect it is those posters who continually jab and jibe and post personal and sarcastic posts that Nuke is seeking to send the message out to that this kind of posting style will not be tolerated!
Well I think we should all report BarryD's posts and get him banned for 3 months. I am sick and tired of reading what a wonderful time they are having, the wonderful Aires they have found, the wonderful weather, the even wonderfully scenery, and the even more wonderfullust food etc etc etc.
Seriously, whilst Seamus does get a bit contraversial at times, he never resorts to personal insults like some others do. There was a member on here who liked a certain brand of Motorhome who would always get personal if anyone disagreed with him and was rightly banned.
If it was the Corrie thread that got him banned, then I have certainly seen a lot worse that have gone unpunished.
And if it was that bad, why don't the mods delete it all together???
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However, by and large the vast majority of MHF members are lovely people and those that like to stir up controversy really do stand out like a sore thumb. I suspect it is those posters who continually jab and jibe and post personal and sarcastic posts that Nuke is seeking to send the message out to that this kind of posting style will not be tolerated!
