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1142604 Post Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:09 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

muggers Subscriber 04/08/2012 


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Having sold the Duetto we're looking for a larger van and have noticed no-one tells you mpg in the spec, unlike when you buy a car Confused So thanks to folks like MHF members who do discuss such things Very Happy

We noticed that the smaller engines seem to get better mpg, say Autoroller 400's 2.2 engine compared with the 600's 2.4.

With the price of diesel unlikely to drop, we're really interested in what engine size gives you a better performance in a 5-6 berth size van. Have also heard that Ford engines can be thirstier than other makes. Have you found this?

Or is it more complex?
 
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If I get 23mpg out of our Bessacarr E769 5 berth (tag axle) I think I'm doing well. The engine is 3 litre.
 
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We get 27mpg out of our hobby 750
 
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On a long run we get roughly 30 mpg from our Champ H601 - on winding roads drops to about 26 mpg. We are quite happy with that after tugging a heavy caravan with a large Merc!!
 
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We averaged 26mpg on our recent trip to Italy and France, mixed driving including a fair amount of 70mph on toll roads. 2.3 Ducato almost 2 years old.

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muggers wrote:
Or is it more complex?


Yes it is.

MPG cannot be quoted by the chassis manufacturer because they have no idea which converter will fit which body type of what weight on what chassis.

Will it be a light GVW but with an overcab or a heavy GVW low profile or a heavy GVW with a huge wind catching overcab?

How can they reveal what they have no chance of knowing?

Some Ford engines are the same as some Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen some aren't.

As I understand it the Ford 2.2 is basically the same as the 2.2 in the Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen.
But the Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen 2.3 isn't fitted to the Ford - they fit their own 2.4 (I think).
The Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen 3.0 is (SFAIK) not used by Ford (I think).

Renault only use their own engines, as do Mercedes Benz (I think).

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There are three important factors:
1. Body design - A luton front can consume up to 25% more fuel
2. Weight - A higher weight will obviously use more fuel
3. Driving style - If you drive like a lunatic, and many motorhomers appear to do so, you will guzzle fuel.
Simple calculation is: If you get 23mpg, that is good; if you better it, that is great.
Gerry
 
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clive1821 Subscriber 03/04/2013 

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Hi just have a look at my mpg it's a 2.8 ducato and is about 4tonne most of the time depending what cargo i have with me, so I get around 20mpg which I think very good for a small engine

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nicholsong Subscriber 06/06/2013 


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GerryD's answer is a good average guide.

I have a big lump (N+B Arto) and around Slovakia recently, including a few steep hills, got 24mpg [but I can ease off the throttle when I spot a traffic light/roadworks at 5 km!]

Geoff
 
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2.5 Renault here low profile 3.5 ton , i get 26ish around town and when putting right foot down heavy and about 30 to 32 on a motorway run, but considering what i take and the size of the van if i got anything over 23mpg i would be happy.
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