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1176845 Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:32 pm Thank this member for this postReply with quote Back To Top

barryd Linked Subscriber 25/05/2013 


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Hi All

the van (swift kontiki Peugeot boxer 2.5td, 1996) is playing up.

We are In the lakes for Christmas and new year. Yesterday when heading to wast water I noticed a slight misfire or lack of power on occassion, mainly when going up hills or accelerating under load. The van has just had a major service. For about six months it's been starting badly like it's only firing on two cylenders and kicking out a lot of smoke. After 30 seconds or so it's fine and has driven perfectly until now. I suggested to the garage that it might need new glow plugs but they said they were fine and I think they said it might be an injector or something not ionisng properly?

It did this a couple of years ago and they changed i think the air or fuel filter and it stopped missing and was fine.

We were going wildng near crommock water but I was worried about breaking down on narrow roads so have jumped onto a CL near the a66 and cockermouth.

I don't know if I should just leave it until we go home later next weekend, go home early, find a garage, call the Aa or just give it the Basil Faulty treatment (a damed good thrashing)

would have to be new years eve of course.

We have the scooter so not exactly stranded

thanks in anticipation!

Barry

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One guess could be an air leak in the fuel system, perhaps downside of the fuel pump. Maybe its the gasket on the fuel pump filter bowl. Make sure your mobile is charged as it could be a bugger to start!

Take care

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Hi Barry,

Just got home and read your post.

There is a website called garage finder. They list a number of garages in cockermouth but no detail on Fiat garages. I have checked my Fiat service book and they list no dealers in the area.

Sorry that I cannot be of more help but somebody local might give you better info. Just get smashed tonight and forget about it.

Regards

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barry as clive suggested fuel filter leaking air in , or dodgy injector , maybe try some injector cleaner , whats your mileage btw . gary
 
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Sorry Barry too far away to be of any help, needs a Garage I think

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Not easy to diagnose long distance Barry. It might go 1000 miles or 10 feet.

It is almost certainly fuel related.

Sorry I can't be more encouraging.

There are a few basic things you could try if you are at all mechanical and have a few tools, but I guess if you were you wouldn't be asking.

I would remove or disconnect the air filter and see if it improves. What colour is the smoke? Alan.
 
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barryd Linked Subscriber 25/05/2013 


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Thanks all.

The smoke is a white grey with a hint of blue. Garage said it's diesel and nothing to worry about. It was like that starting most of the summer but never missed a beat when running until now. Mileage is just 62k.

I think I might just book a couple of Cl sites nearby and consider driving home at the end o the week or finding a local garage in keswick or somewhere. It's mrs d's birthday on the third which is probably the first day they will be open again and I don't suppose she will want to spend it looking for a garage.

If I is just fuel related, what's the worse that will happen if I keep using it? From keswick it's only 65 miles home.

If it's just a case of it eventually conking out I'll risk it but could I be doing long term damage if it's just fuel starvation?

I know it's like asking you to look in a crystal ball.

Cheers
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This site has some useful info..

http://www.dieseljones.co.uk/troubleshoot-a-diesel-engine.html

hope it helps.

curlyboy
 
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One great thing with diesel is that there is no such thing as a lean mixture! Fuel starvation will only effect power.

If it has been kicking out excessive diesel then it may well be an injector. I don't know if your engine is direct or indirect injection but to me it sounds like an injector is on it's way out. Basically the nozzles get partially blocked and then the spray pattern is effected. This means that the fuel isn't in a nice mist and has big droplets that may not be combusting properly. I know diesels are not effected as much as petrols on atomisation of fuel but a poor spray pattern from an injector will lead to an increase in smoke from the exhaust.

I would have a look under bonnet and see if you can see any fuel leaks (might indicate air leak in fuel line) in all fuel lines to and from pump, on returns from injectors (leak back), and check for air leaks on air filter and all air hoses.

If it were me I would try and get some injector cleaner for fuel tank and enjoy your trip. Then when convenient take it to a diesel specialist to check injectors etc.

Good Luck.
 
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Hi Bary

The fact that its just has a service might be relevant. check the air filter clips and associated air intake hoses for loose clips and places where air can get in. If it does it debalances the turbo and it shuts down.

Did you notice any warning lights?

You might need to have it put on an analyser tuner to see if theres anything misfiring etc.


Phill

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