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 Ban on Speed Camera detectors in France!!!
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Under new traffic laws, Speed Camera Detectors are to be banned in France. This includes all types of detectors.
Please read below.

Speed Camera Detectors

The most significant and controversial of the new measures is a ban on the use of speed camera warning devices.

In future, possession of an avertisseur de radars is punishable by a fine of €1500 and loss of six points on the licence. The police have been granted powers of seizure, which can include the vehicle itself if the device cannot be removed from the vehicle.

By way of dispensation, the use of warning devices that signal 'accident black spots' (where there may or may not be speed cameras), will continue to be permitted. The accident black spots have yet to be defined by the government.

Simultaneously with the introduction of the new offence the government have reached agreement with the main manufacturers - Coyote, Inforad or Wikango - to remove radar detection functionality from their equipment.

Those with existing speed camera detection systems are required to bring them into conformity with the regulations, a process which can be done over the internet, by simple deactivation of the function, or by a visit to the garage for those devices built integrally into the car. Older versions not capable of being altered will need to be removed from the vehicle.

For those with GPS via a Smartphone, then it will be necessary to charge a new version available over the internet e.g. App Store, Android Market.

Happy Days!!

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I believe Garmin are already producing a sat nav for France with "danger areas" to mark fixed speed camersa.
They have been accepted by the authorities.

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Well if this isn't a revenue generating idea I don't know what is?
It defies logic about 'safety'. Sat Navs give out speed warnings all the time to keep us within the regs and laws.

This is like removing speed signs to get nicked for speeding.

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 Ban on Speed Camera detectors in France!!!
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They are also thinking of removing the signs!! How did you know?
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discussed a few weeks ago

http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopic-118946-0-days0-orderasc- .html

(and I've moved this thread into France touring)

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It is perhaps not surprising how many different interpretations of this proposed change there have been in different motoring forums. There have been several on this one with quotes from French authorities and they all contradict one another in some way.
Is it complicated? What does the French Law say about the situation as it is today and what about the 'Spring' when thing are said to change?
By the way Speed Camera Detectors have always been banned in France, lets not get them confused with GPS Fixed Speed Camera location warnings.

I try to look on this move by the French in some positive way but find it very hard. They seem to be following the UK in prefering punishment, i.e fines, to prevention in the first place. We are of course in no position to lecture them when our own justice sectretary is proposing to increase the FPN amount from £60 to £100 under the guise of 'victim surcharge'. Dorset has it's 'No Excuse' campaign where the profits from Driver Awareness Courses are retained by the Police. Wherever there is traffic enforcement there is money in the background whether it is speed cameras, yellow box enforcement, bus lanes or parking.

Of topic but the UK Government announced yesterday that they will not be bringing the UK MOT testing regime in line with France and Germany by implementing the 4 -2-2 year regime but retaining the 3-1-1 year one. They do though acknowledge that garages must be checked regularly and it ensured that they are not using it as a money generating scheme by finding non existant faults.
 
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It is really interesting that many people believed that this was always the law in France and now it is.

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If its a speed camera detector then this is surely the type that detects the radio wave emmitted from the speed camera or gun to measure the speed. These have always been illegal as far as i know.

The ones on sat navs that just happen to know the location of the camers isnt the same thing. Are we saying this is now illegal?

What about maps with camera location on....

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Mods!

There are now four separate threads running on this!

Lots of people asking questions etc that have beeen dealt with already

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trevd01 wrote:
Mods!

There are now four separate threads running on this!

Lots of people asking questions etc that have beeen dealt with already



I've read most of these threads and I'm still confused. Tom Tom seem to be advising how to take off the camera location POIs and I have done so.

But I don't think drcotts question has been satisfactorily answered?

"The ones on sat navs that just happen to know the location of the camer s isn't the same thing. Are we saying this is now illegal?

What about maps with camera location on.... "


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