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Hello
After waht happened on Corfu with the family on holiday, I am very aware that we have not had our heater/boiler serviced or checked since we got our m/home in May (its a 1995 Euramobil). What type of company do you use to get it checked for safety and get a safety certificate to verify. We use British Gas for the house but with it being LPG I was not sure what you do? Also does anyone use carbon monoxide detectors in their motorhomes and where do they fit them.
I bought a CO detector from Aldi supermarkets. It is a "stand alone" unit (battery powered and lasts for 5 years (I am told). We just take it along with us as we travel. It is small enough just to stand on a flat surface. Hope this helps.
Thanks, I have been phoning round and found a company with do a full habitation check on all the systems gas, water etc for £111 - does that sound reasonable?
Thanks
Victoria
hi according to GT on another site, (what ever you say about him he usually gets his facts right) no habitation service will include a gas boiler service by a CORGI certified gas fitter.
That doesn't mean its not done properly just that you won't get a CORGI certificate.
Never had one done myself so I can't say wether he's right or not but I think it would make it too expensive, most gas fitters can earn £200+ a day so the boiler service alone would cost £100
I think it would be uneconomic even for the largest firms (Brownhills) to have their own CORGI fitters, £3000 to train them and then they leave and start up on their own. so they would have to get one in, possible I suppose.
Hi Victoria
I co-ordinate gas courses and assessments for Corgi registered gas fitters/engineers. They contact me when their certification runs out.
You could go down the habitation way (I don't know what you get for that) or you could go on the Corgi website and locate an installer/fitter in your area.
Click on Google
Type in Corgi Gas
This will lead you to the Corgi Gas homepage
Click on 'Find an installer near you'
You will see a Category box (click on it and a drop down box appears, click on Caravans/Appliances
Enter your postcode
Gas Type is LPG
press 'Search'
You will then be given a list of names/companies and telephone numbers.
If you decide to call them and get some quotes ensure they are certificated for the CCLP1 LAV category. If they say yes they are, then you can go on to ask if they are certificated for HTRLP3 (Caravan Space Heaters). If they're not, then try someone else.
Hope this helps
Pam (the other half of Geo)
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hi according to GT on another site, (what ever you say about him he usually gets his facts right) no habitation service will include a gas boiler service by a CORGI certified gas fitter.
That doesn't mean its not done properly just that you won't get a CORGI certificate.
Never had one done myself so I can't say whether he's right or not but I think it would make it too expensive, most gas fitters can earn £200+ a day so the boiler service alone would cost £100
I think it would be uneconomic even for the largest firms (Brownhills) to have their own CORGI fitters, £3000 to train them and then they leave and start up on their own. so they would have to get one in, possible I suppose.
Olley
Olley,
For once GT had not quite got it right, he made the above statement on another site and when I pointed out Timberland imported a Corgi reg fitter to do the habitation checks. I gave GT the fitters Corgi number so he could check them out.
One word of warning about these checks, I wanted the burner on my fridge checked and cleaned but this does not happen on the hab check.
The problem with my Timberland is the fridge has to be removed to be serviced it cannot be checked in situ. If yours needs removing make sure the person doing the understands what it entails in removing the fridge.
There is a thread on Out & About that is worth reading HERE
If you decide to call them and get some quotes ensure they are certificated for the CCLP1 LAV category. If they say yes they are, then you can go on to ask if they are certificated for HTRLP3 (Caravan Space Heaters). If they're not, then try someone else.
Hope this helps
Pam (the other half of Geo)
Hi pam this just highlights the ridiculousness of CORGI I was registered up to 10 years ago and I have never heard of these certificates, how is joe public to know? When I first registered in 92? their was just one course which covered everything, now how many are there?
My son-in-law is fitting out a boiler room at a school, but can't fit my household boiler, how daft is that.
Hi all, Just to set the record straight on a couple of points. A habitation check is a habitation check with possibly minor repairs being done. What it does include is a visual check of the gas system & a gas soundness check. Servicing of appliances is not included in the check as an average fire takes 1.5 hours to service,likewise the older fridge fitments. You DO NOT HAVE to be Corgi registered to work on the gas systems on motorhomes except ones used for rental purposes BUT you do have to hold the relevant qualifications which most dealrs ensure their workshop staff do. If in doubt ask to see their certification card which is similar to a credit card & lists the exact details of what they are qualified to work on. Corgi is a RIP OFF,Steve
Hi, Ollie, Sergeant
Need to just post some answers to your previous replies.
Olley - there are 12 catergories under Core Natural Gas, 22 under LPG, 16 under commercial, 10 under commercial catering and 12 under limited Scope i.e., meters. Yes it does sound ridiculous but they have each been designed for operative's specific needs. I would like to meet the guy who needs to do the lot.
You said "It's all just a money making exercise". yes and no and I say this with the utmost respect, don't let's forget how this all came about. Due to the ever increase of deaths from Carbon Monoxide poisening the Government instructed the HSE to invite submissions from organisations to form a registration body for Gas. Hence Corgi was born. Since then the percentage rate of CO deaths has decreased. Unfortunately I only have figures to 2002/3 as our conferance this year has been put off until next year but:
1986/87 Number of Fatalities - Explosion/Fire 12
- CO Poisoning 35
2002/03 Number of Fatalities - Explosion/Fire 4
- CO Poisoning 21
I'm sure (but not 100% of course) that the figures up to this year will show a further decrease because the general public are becoming more aware of the importance of corgi registered fitters.
The rip off comes now, when the operative has to notify Corgi of every appliance they install and pay £4.50 for the privaledge.
Sergeant: My Assessor is also an Expert Witness for the Home Office. He told me a story today which set a president which still exists today. You say " you do not have to be Corgi registered to work on the gas system if it is not used for rental purposes BUT you have to hold the relevant qualifications". Unfortunately this is slightly incorrect. Anyone can service his own fire (say) and provided he does it properly no one would have a case against him as a judge ruled a few years ago. Corgi apparently sent a man to court because he had serviced his own gas fire. The judge asked Corgi what part of the service had he done incorrectly? Corgi answered none and the judge stated that there was no case to answer, and this applies today. It would obviously be a different story if the appliance had been serviced incorrectly. BUT once a person employes another person to carry out the work then that employed person MUST be certificated and registered with Corgi.
The problem comes of course, how does the uncertificated person know if they are doing it properely. You, as a technician knows what is involved with gas rating, tightness testing etc. You know the figures you have to work to, the rules, regulations etc etc, the general public don't so hopefully they wouldn't be silly enough to carry out gas work but then again there's always one.
Anyway, hope I've not ruffled any feathers - that certainly was not the intention.
If anyone needs help regarding certification numbers for locating gas fitters then feel free to pm me.
Pam
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so they would have to get one in, possible I suppose.
