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 Air Suspension Aids - Tag Axle
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Hi all,

I am having difficulty in trying to find an Air Suspension Kit that can be fitted to an Alko Tag chassis. Both Dunlop and DriveRite inform me that they do not supply, nor fit their kits to anything other than a single rear axle. Because of the torsion suspension system used, DriveRight even suggested that the chassis may well become twisted if air suspension was to be fitted. Shocked Shocked Shocked

Whilst on an Aire at Le Touquet, a German owned Hymer tag axle had air suspension fitted, and the Dutch owned Hymer tag next to me had uprated front springs from Fiat, which I did view. Fiat UK say that there is no front spring uprate. Shocked Both owners did indicate that their individual upgrades made a big difference in the vehicle handling. All three MH's are of the same year model.

So, does anyone on here have an Alko tag chassis with air suspension fitted, and working well?

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Jock,

I could tell you but it'll cost you a couple gallons of red diesel!!!!

The guys you need to speak to are Godschmitt - www.goldschmitt.de

They do suspension replacement, air adjustable, front, tag, single, alko, the whole nine yards.

They have a very good catalogue in English that you can download from the interweb.

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b16duv wrote:
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I could tell you but it'll cost you a couple gallons of red diesel!!!!


David


How much is that these days David, about, £2.00 a gallon? Wink I'll have a word with my mate, the local Yachting Club Commodore. Laughing

Seriously, thanks for the link and info.

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JockandRita wrote:
Hi all,

I am having difficulty in trying to find an Air Suspension Kit that can be fitted to an Alko Tag chassis. Both Dunlop and DriveRite inform me that they do not supply, nor fit their kits to anything other than a single rear axle. Because of the torsion suspension system used, DriveRight even suggested that the chassis may well become twisted if air suspension was to be fitted. Shocked Shocked Shocked

Whilst on an Aire at Le Touquet, a German owned Hymer tag axle had air suspension fitted, and the Dutch owned Hymer tag next to me had uprated front springs from Fiat, which I did view. Fiat UK say that there is no front spring uprate. Shocked Both owners did indicate that their individual upgrades made a big difference in the vehicle handling. All three MH's are of the same year model.

So, does anyone on here have an Alko tag chassis with air suspension fitted, and working well?

Best regards,

Jock.


Hey Jock..how are you doing??

Have you tried Kuhn Auto Technik? I suspect that if anyone does a system for tags it would be them.

They had a pretty impressive display at Dusseldorf, and the guy i spoke to was extremely knowledgable

Kuhn Auto Technik

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Carper wrote:
Hey Jock..how are you doing??

Have you tried Kuhn Auto Technik? I suspect that if anyone does a system for tags it would be them.

They had a pretty impressive display at Dusseldorf, and the guy i spoke to was extremely knowledgable

Kuhn Auto Technik

Doug


Hi Doug, fine thanks.

From the link that David supplied, I have managed to identify the uprated Ducato front springs, that the Dutch guy had, and also a air kit for a tandem/tag, which is probably what the German guy had. I have tried e-mailing them, but not successful yet.

I have emailed Kuhn Auto Technic, (thanks for that info), however, there is no mention of a tandem/tag kit on their website.

Dunlop promised to get an engineer to phone me to discuss the chassis axle arrangement, and their kits..............but not yet. Shocked

Hope that you are well Doug, and keeping occupied. How's Maise? Wink

Cheers for now,

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have you tried AS Air suspension. We have just returned from Europe and was speaking to a guy who had had it fitted, I have to say it looked pretty impressive. he had a Hymer but not sure of the model and I am not sure if it was a tag axle or not. They have got a website, I have had a look and found it by putting the name in google.
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kit wrote:
have you tried AS Air suspension. We have just returned from Europe and was speaking to a guy who had had it fitted, I have to say it looked pretty impressive. he had a Hymer but not sure of the model and I am not sure if it was a tag axle or not. They have got a website, I have had a look and found it by putting the name in google.
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Thanks for that Kit, I have had a look, and made enquiries

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Hi all,

From Carper's (Doug's) link above to Kuhn Auto Technik, here is a copy of the reply , to an enquiry I made to them, re alternative suspension upgrades. (Google translation)

Hello Mr. T......
Air Spring AL-KO tandem axle 2.800,00 € VAT incl assembly
Assembly time is about 3 days. It must be examined on the vehicle if
The air suspension can be mounted. (Not all vehicles)

Additional spring front axle 469.00 €. Mounting 285.00 €
Assembly time 1 day.
for the purpose of appointment please contact Mr. Lotz
in conjunction Tel 0049-6532-9530-42
Greeting from the Mosel
Rainer Kappel Tel 0049-6532-9530-11


We are still waiting to hear from www.goldschmitt.de

We now have a service appointment for September, at Hymer HQ, Bad Waldsee.

Jock.

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Hi Jock,

That is not cheap,2,800 euros for the tandem axle and they want the vehicle for 3 days.Then about another 800 for the front axle spring. Shocked

You must have significant reasons for considering uprating the suspension,whether it's cost effective or not depends what mileage you do and the handling improvements that are gained I suppose,but at that price I would have to think twice

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wakk44 wrote:
Hi Jock,

That is not cheap,2,800 euros for the tandem axle and they want the vehicle for 3 days.Then about another 800 for the front axle spring. Shocked

You must have significant reasons for considering uprating the suspension,whether it's cost effective or not depends what mileage you do and the handling improvements that are gained I suppose,but at that price I would have to think twice


Hi Steve,

You're right, it's not cheap, and at those prices, any significant reason for upgrading..................just went out of the window. Laughing I was only going to have either the front or the rear uprated, but not both, and not any now by the looks of things . Sad

I just wanted to wait to see if anyone else thought the same way.
Thanks Steve. Wink

Jock.

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