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For first time buyers, Anne & I are considering a pre-owned (8 months old, 1500 miles) Bessacarr E460 or a new Elddis Autoquest 120 for similar money. Does anyone have an opinion to what would be the better buy?
From this years Gold/Silver satisfaction awards Swift/Fiat scored average 83% and Explorer/Peugeot scored 86.5%.
we were looking for an upgrade to the van we have. got some good offers against an Elddis but when u look round them they are a little basic. 45 lts of water, got 65 lts in the present van and thats really not enough. It's a real downer on the Elldis vans.
They are very much last generation, look round there's plenty of vans that are a better buy.
Wilt.
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I'd agree with karlb erik.
You'll face the initial depreciation on the Elddis whereas the big hit should've been taken by the original owner of the Bessie.
I'd always worry why such a new van was back up for sale, but there can be any number of good reasons and it won't necessarily be because it's a lemon. Try and ascertain where the dealer got it and if there's a sensible sounding provenance.
The Elddis I saw at a show recently seemed to me remarkable value for money as a new starter MH. I thought my other half was going to buy one for herself ... she loved the rear lounge!
As has been pointed out, the van is limited in terms of fresh & used water capacity but it all depends on what use you will be making of it. As a tourer for 2 using mainly proper campsites in the UK it should be a great van for the money. One drawback I noticed was lack of external storage for the stuff you need on site but I suppose you can stow it inside if necessary.
I don't know much about the used Bessacarr but you should find out why the previous ownership only lasted 8 months / 1500 miles. That would be a red flag for me.
Now is a good time to buy new before all the price rises due to the Pound / Euro slide.
We have a 2007 Bessacarr E460 which we recently bought at just over 12 months old, 7000 miles. The previous owner had brought it in for a minor repair and decided to upgrade on the spur of the moment.
We also considered a brand new Elddis Autoquest 140 which has a similar rear lounge layout.
We decided to go for the second hand Bessie as it seemed quite a bit higher spec furnishings and fittings than the Elddis. The beds are better quality, bigger water tank, in-built microwave etc.
Also, the 'sting' was out of the initial new price as it was second hand (although like new).
So far we have been more than satisfied with the E460. Beds are good when used as 2 singles as well as when made up to the double. I don't think you would have this option in the Autoquest 120 as the couches are shorter. You would always need to make up the double bed. You also couldn't 'stretch out' on the single couches to use them as 'day beds'.
Feel free to PM me if you want more info on the E460.
Regards
Hez
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We have the E460, and apart from a few little niggles we think it is a good van
The Elddiss range looked good, but I was swayed by Swift customer care as evident on the forums
The option of the 130 motor was also a big decider as it makes the van such a great performer, although it added to the cost
What do we like about the E460?
Build quality seems good
Refinement is better than one might expect from an entry level vehicle
Good seating area
Not a lot of rattles
Reasonable singles or great double bed
What don't we like?
Seems cold in the lounge area, even with heating on high
Not so sure the habitation door mechanism is that good
Shower/toilet isn't as versatile as it would appear - at least to our plump and unfit bodies
Switches for heater/ water heater under seating
Whatever you chose, hope you get lot's of enjoyment from it
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