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Can yiou ride a 125cc on 'L' plates (CBT trained) or do you need a full license in Europe?
 
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Mmm

Thats a very good question,

My initial view would be that driving licence regs are harmonised throughout Europe (thats why we are on photocard licences now) so you should be OK. Would it not be a lot easier to just take your M/Cycle test before you go ???
 
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I've got a full license, but my wife doesn't and she fancies a go.

And if you think it's easy getting a full bike license then you clearly haven't taken the test recently!!

I'll give the AA a ring, they should know.....

Well, just called them, they don't have a clue, nor does the DVLA ..... any more thoughts?
 
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Only full, not provisional, licences are recognised under the directive
 
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Just spoken to Bennets, bike insurers, and they reckon you can ride a 125 in Europe on L plates with a CBT and a full car license, and they could insure it.
 
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They are wrong

http://www.aboutdrivingabroad.co.uk/your-driving-licence-valid-abroad.html

"You’re not allowed to drive abroad on a provisional licence"

Think it through

You can swap youir EU licence for an EU licenv ce in another EU statre but you cannot swap your provisional, you must take out a local one


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If it helps I live in Spain and you can ride up to 125 with a car licence.

Used to be under 50 cc you need not have insurance or licence but not allowed on main roads. even our local plod rides on with no plates...

I would advise the 50cc thing as all areas are differant rules according to your province your in.

But much is now starting to conform with the EU but in Andalucia and I think all of Spain your be ok up to 125cc youll need greencard insurance.
and a helmet
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thieawin wrote:
They are wrong

http://www.aboutdrivingabroad.co.uk/your-driving-licence-valid-abroad.html

"You’re not allowed to drive abroad on a provisional licence"

Think it through

You can swap youir EU licence for an EU licenv ce in another EU statre but you cannot swap your provisional, you must take out a local one


Yeah - but she's not got a provisional license, she's got a full UK driving license, with an English CBT to allow her to drive a 125cc bike.
 
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Well...As I said you can ride up to 125cc on a car licence, forgetting the bike licence.
With A bike licence She is allowed the same as in the UK
She can ride 125cc on either licence entitlement
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No

you cannot drive on the provisional entitlements abroad

The UK licence is full for categories passed and provisional for catergories not passed

it is only the full categories which are recognised in EU

here is the UK government web site link showing it the other way around ie Europeans coming to UK

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DrivingInGbOnAForeignLicence/DG_4022556

"If you hold a valid community licence and are visiting GB, you can drive any vehicle if THE FULL entitlement for that vehicle is shown on the licence"

FULL not PROVISIONAL

If you drive abrouad a vehicle for which your UK licence is only provisional you risk prosecution and disqualification in that country for driving without a licence
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