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This was also discussed at some length last week here:


and this current thread is, in some ways, a natural evolution of that topic.
 
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Here, too:

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PS While on a roll I bet those same 'elf & saf'T experts have sealed unvented lead acid batteries in their habitation area but haven't got around to understanding the problem to preach about it.
 
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and Unclenorm made the point earlier in this thread
'I use the first type, FULLY unwound'.
 
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DABurleigh wrote:
Well it depends on the context intended by "Must". If you are looking for a safe rule designed for the lowest common denominator, then fine.

An analogy is setting your car indicators when turning. Should this always be done? Clearly not. The Police training is clear you don't indicate when there is no road user to benefit from your indicating.

And it's the same with coiled cable. If you understand electricity then unwinding it is sometimes completely pointless.

I just wish those who didn't understand would allow those of us who do to do their own thing in peace and utter safety, without preaching that we're about to unleash Armageddon upon the campsite.

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The problem is, those that don't understand may follow by example, not realising the reasons why your lead is still coiled.

At least these threads may give someone an insight as to when they shouldn't be left coiled up.

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TR5 wrote:
The problem is, those that don't understand may follow by example, not realising the reasons why your lead is still coiled.

Exactly TR5 - you beat me to it. Wink

Using the indicators when there is no-one around to see it is not likely to be dangerous.

Leaving a lot of cable thickly coiled on a small drum, then drawing 16 Amps may not prove so harmless.

With genuine respect for Dave, I think we do have to cater for the lowest common denominator . . . assuming by that he means the rawest novice who (as yet) knows very little about motorhoming.

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Zebedee wrote:
I think we do have to cater for the lowest common denominator . . .


 
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Just about sums it up Dave - but who is the "lowest common denominator" there . . . the idiot who scalds his tongue or the prize plonker who prints the label on the cup to tell him it's hot? Shocked Rolling Eyes

Chicken and egg I think. Wink

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Well that example is from a celebrated legal case where, as always, the truth is more balanced than the story that propagated. But your response invokes the question of just how far do we all have to go to cater for those few who can't be bothered to read instructions, for example. Or in this case, err,...



But in truth I am more irritated by those who are convinced they know it all, and are going to ram it down your throat, when it is clear they know nothing.

It is one thing being stupid; but quite another to open your mouth and prove it.

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A quick re-visit to the topic:-
We have just been touring in France encountering very cold temperatures, this introduces a new category regarding an unwound cable.
When your hands are freezing and the whole cable is laid out to prevent science taking over, re-winding becomes a real challenge as it retains the deployed shape and becomes very reluctant to go back onto its reel.
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I use one of these, 2 cables with an old towel between them.

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