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I think that given a senerio of dogs fouling the site (or the dog area )and owners not clearing up after them the owners should be required to vacate the site immediately as surely that is an infringement of site rules
Obviously I have a dog but I do not want him or us walking through dog poo that other lazy owners have not bothered to clean up and this applies to dog walking areas too.
If sites accept dogs there should be an easily accessed area that owners can use with prominent dog bins and signs requesting owners to clean up.
For this I am happy to pay a reasonable charge
We take Shadow on long walks throughout the day , but last thing at night no one wants to make a long walk off site for a two minute night stop,some owners don't hence the fouling of sites under cover of darkness--thoughtless and irresponsible
Right that's my thoughts on the subject
Aldra
But there is the rub! Most people that don't pick up their dogs poo on site are narrow minded selfish pigs.
Arguing with them that they should, if only morally clean up their dogs mess is like banging you head against a brick wall. And sometimes leaves a bad taste in the mouth: theirs, when you run their noses in it
The point that I am making is that having dogs on a site, can cause trouble and additional work so I see charging people that want to bring dogs as fair. The same as people that want to being trailers or put up awings
I still maintain that the overall price is the important thing, not what is charged for individually
Eddie
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One answer is to cross the Channel to France - in our experience charges for dogs are easily avoided or just not taken even though they may be in the tariff.
But that raises another issue - the cost of dogs on the ferries. How can they charge extra £15 per dog when they're not even allowed out of the vehicle? And the Chunnel seems even worse - I was just looking at booking that and the site says they charge £30 PER DOG, one way - outrageous!
At least when you pay for a dog on a site the creature is allowed to walk around on a lead
Alan
Who does all the paperwork? Why should they do it for nothing?
Eddie
Yes Eddie, I understand that and a reasonable charge is not resented. But the "paperwork" is already built into the booking system - the only additional work at the port is a simple scan of the identi chip and entering that number onto the existing record as one is checking in. My point is, how can it be £15 on one line and double that on another?
The wonders of a capitalist system which encourages exploitation of minorities by monopolies
I think that given a senerio of dogs fouling the site (or the dog area )and owners not clearing up after them the owners should be required to vacate the site immediately as surely that is an infringement of site rules
Obviously I have a dog but I do not want him or us walking through dog poo that other lazy owners have not bothered to clean up and this applies to dog walking areas too.
If sites accept dogs there should be an easily accessed area that owners can use with prominent dog bins and signs requesting owners to clean up.
For this I am happy to pay a reasonable charge
We take Shadow on long walks throughout the day , but last thing at night no one wants to make a long walk off site for a two minute night stop,some owners don't hence the fouling of sites under cover of darkness--thoughtless and irresponsible
Right that's my thoughts on the subject
Aldra
Any dog owner who does not take responsibility for clearing the mess left by their dog should, of course, be penalised for that. Likewise, as said elsehwhere earlier, owners of feral children should also be brought to account for the impact of their actions on others. For that matter, so should folk whose actions or activities might be having an undue impact on neighbouring pitches (loud noise, raucous laughter after, say 10.00pm, etc.)
It all comes down to showing some respect and consideration for our neighbours and minimising our impact on others. "Do as you would be done by"
One answer is to cross the Channel to France - in our experience charges for dogs are easily avoided or just not taken even though they may be in the tariff.
But that raises another issue - the cost of dogs on the ferries. How can they charge extra £15 per dog when they're not even allowed out of the vehicle? And the Chunnel seems even worse - I was just looking at booking that and the site says they charge £30 PER DOG, one way - outrageous!
At least when you pay for a dog on a site the creature is allowed to walk around on a lead
Alan
Who does all the paperwork? Why should they do it for nothing?
Eddie
Yes Eddie, I understand that and a reasonable charge is not resented. But the "paperwork" is already built into the booking system - the only additional work at the port is a simple scan of the identi chip and entering that number onto the existing record as one is checking in. My point is, how can it be £15 on one line and double that on another?
The wonders of a capitalist system which encourages exploitation of minorities by monopolies
Alan
Nothing to do with capitalism it takes longer! It is your choice to own a dog, it is your choice to take the dog.
It takes longer to book a vehicle in with a dog so they charge more for this, and the charges are clearly made up front before you book.
No doubt they have staff that don't like dogs, no doubt they have staff that are scared of dogs and no doubt they will have staff that are allergic to dogs these thing also have to be taken into consideration in the grand scheme of things
In the Summer we are going to a site on the river in the Ardeche and we are happy to be paying €5 for each of my two German Shepherds and and £30 per dog on the ferry.
The alternative is that we wouldn't be able to take them with us, which would spoil our holiday, cost us a lot more than that in kennel fee's and stress the dogs.
Whenever you start to question any cost you start to wonder how it is justified, whether the cost of Wine in a restaurant, the price of Lamb in the butcher or the charges of a plumber. Knowing the price of everything isn't to understand the value of a product or a service!
£45,000,000.00 for a Titian painting "saved for the Nation? How can they justify that !
Eddie
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Aside from the charge, which if modest may be acceptable, there are 2 other issues coming out here. The behaviour of some campers and the response of site owners. Personally, I would rather see owners adopt a zero-tolerance attitude where people refuse to behave according to the rules. They should be asked to leave. Where issues are not tackled then the anti-social minority will continue to behave in that way.
For that reason, I would never, ever go to a large site in the high season. We camp wild or go to 5-van sites in remote parts of the country. I just don't want the hassle.
Finally, have you noticed how some people are scooping up their dog poo and then leaving the bag. Who do they think is going to clear it up? Before long we're all going to be submerged by a rising tide of litter.
One answer is to cross the Channel to France - in our experience charges for dogs are easily avoided or just not taken even though they may be in the tariff.
But that raises another issue - the cost of dogs on the ferries. How can they charge extra £15 per dog when they're not even allowed out of the vehicle? And the Chunnel seems even worse - I was just looking at booking that and the site says they charge £30 PER DOG, one way - outrageous!
At least when you pay for a dog on a site the creature is allowed to walk around on a lead
Alan
Who does all the paperwork? Why should they do it for nothing?
Eddie
Yes Eddie, I understand that and a reasonable charge is not resented. But the "paperwork" is already built into the booking system - the only additional work at the port is a simple scan of the identi chip and entering that number onto the existing record as one is checking in. My point is, how can it be £15 on one line and double that on another?
The wonders of a capitalist system which encourages exploitation of minorities by monopolies
Alan
Nothing to do with capitalism it takes longer! It is your choice to own a dog, it is your choice to take the dog.
It takes longer to book a vehicle in with a dog so they charge more for this, and the charges are clearly made up front before you book.
No doubt they have staff that don't like dogs, no doubt they have staff that are scared of dogs and no doubt they will have staff that are allergic to dogs these thing also have to be taken into consideration in the grand scheme of things
In the Summer we are going to a site on the river in the Ardeche and we are happy to be paying €5 for each of my two German Shepherds and and £30 per dog on the ferry.
The alternative is that we wouldn't be able to take them with us, which would spoil our holiday, cost us a lot more than that in kennel fee's and stress the dogs.
Whenever you start to question any cost you start to wonder how it is justified, whether the cost of Wine in a restaurant, the price of Lamb in the butcher or the charges of a plumber. Knowing the price of everything isn't to understand the value of a product or a service!
£45,000,000.00 for a Titian painting "saved for the Nation? How can they justify that !
Eddie
But he did give a special discount of £5 million, because he felt patriotic I suppose
I live semi rural in the UK. All houses have gardens, many very large yet every day all the dog keepers take their dogs out for "a walk" but in actual fact, all they're doing is taking their dogs off of their own property so they can defecate somewhere else - somewhere shared by the public.
"Somewhere else" comprises footpaths, farmland and recreation grounds.
I watch them go out and watch them return - so very few are carrying poo bags.
I once challenged a dog walker as to how they could justify "walking" their dog on a recreation field where children come to play sport and frequently end up on the ground - their response was that they only "walk" their dogs around the edge!!
What I've found puzzling, and now see as extreme arrogance, is why can't they get their dogs to defecate in their own gardens (or campsite pitches) - then it's up to them if they pick up or not? I wonder how they would feel if I came and defecated on their front lawn every morning!
I know it's not all dog keepers that are so inconsiderate but from where I sit, it's the majority who are guilty, not the minority.
I'm quiet happy to see dogs on campsites as long as I don't hear them, have them sniffing around my feet or have to step around piles of poo.
The charges made by site owners are indicative of the "inconvenience" they are to that site owner.
........ and please don't label me a dog hater, but rather a hater of arrogant dog keeprs.
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One day, I would love to be a wise old man. I have been extremely successful at the getting-older part. The getting-wiser part is proving tougher to achieve.
we have an assistance dog. they are trained to only go in the back garden and not on the lead as obviously the disabled owner may not be able to pick up. so when away he gets most confused. ends up in some very long walks.........
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