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Hi all,

Having had Nellie for nearly 3 months we're really getting to grips with this MH'ing lark and are thoroughly enjoying it but tonight we were talking about upgrading next year. Nellie is an entry level 1996 Compass Drifter 410 and as much as we love her there are a couple of things we'd change (ok, that's me - hubby isn't quite as fussy :lol: )

Firstly, the fridge is too small, hence my earlier post about electric coolboxes. Secondly, and more importantly to me, the bathroom in Nellie is teeny tiny - very small cubicle with drop down basin above the loo. Absolutely fine for using as a WC but anything more and it really is a squeeze.

So, I've been looking at larger washrooms, the absolute best I've found so far is the huge rear bathroom in the Autotrail Mohican - loads of space as a dressing room, wardrobe out of the way, lots of cupboard space etc etc. Do any other MHs have this large washroom - surely the Mohican can't be the only option?

There are only 2 of us and a nice lounging area is also important (again a big plus with the Mohican), we really don't like dinettes and aren't bothered about a fixed bed.

Is there any other van that we could be looking at - bearing in mind that this won't be a new van.

Thanks :D
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Your requirements and views are much the same as mine. The Mohican is a good choice especially and older one without that silly stupid circular shower the newer ones have. They are just not flexible enough because you cannot use the shower for much else. The older square shower is much more practical and it had a hanging rail in it too. A good place to hang your wet weather gear and outdoor clothing in or keep anything else in that comes out when you pitch up.

I have a 2001 Mohican and have for two years been looking to change but have not found anything else to match my requirements so have still got it and am now likely to keep it for the foreseeable future.

I'll be interested to see the responses you get.

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Hi,

We have an Auto Trail Cheyenne and one of the things that swung it for us was it's roomy full width rear bathroom and its spacious lounge area. I don't know how the Cheyenne compares with the Mohican but I know when we were looking for a new motorhome the Auto Trails were the only motorhomes we had come across that offered what we were looking for. It does have a fixed bedroom though so maybe the Cheyenne wouldn't be for you but by the sounds of it, it sounds like Auto Trail are still the best choice for larger bathroomsl.

We absolutely love our motorhome, it's our little palace on wheels and we don't regret our decision at all. We have had a few little irritating niggles go wrong with it (nothing major) but it seems from listening to a lot of other people who have bought brand new vehicles (not just Auto Trails) that this is par for the course and something we all just have to accept as normal. If you are looking for a slightly older motorhome I would assume that all the little teething problems that arise will have been sorted out by then and you will avoid any of this! However, despite these little hiccups I cannot recommend the Auto Trail fleet enough and we think they are great motorhomes.

Good luck with your search and keep us informed of how you get on.

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Sue,

I've looked at the Cheyenne range, your model is a little too big for my driveway and I am not very keen on fixed beds. They take up too much living space when you consider you are only going to use them on average a third of a day and most you have to CLIMB into. Ok in warmer climates but when in this country you spend a far greater proportion of time in your van they are a no no for me. I prefer a more open environment with lots of daytime space.

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It's all swings and roundabouts with MH layout, we like out fixed bed, but would like a rear lounge, but not the bed making, we like our bathroom, it's not huge but not confined to the size of a shower tray, and we wanted a dinette, it's pretty much a good, well sorted MH, just short of somewhere to lounge around really, but we tend to spend a lot of time driving, so not a huge problem.

I think it would be a good idea if ALL MH advertising would show a plan view of each model with dimensions, it would then be so much easier to make comparisons.

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Sara,

The Euramobil range all have big bathrooms as standard - I had a sport 500, the smallest in the range and my mate had the biggest a-class - both had the same bathroom!

Separate shower off the bathroom and space to stand in front of the basin without hitting knees off the toilet. Mine had a wardroce in there too, and enough room to get changed without having to close all the blinds in the rest of the van.

Great build quality too!

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Thanks guys,

Peedee yes we'd be looking at around a 2000/2001 model due to budget constraints :D One question, can the lounge bench seats be used as single beds or are they too short?

The Cheyenne really is too big for us - parking at our storgage place would be very very tight.

Oh yes, got to be RHD too as 99% of our touring will be UK and Ireland. M/H number 3 may be LHD as we venture overseas once we've done the UK!!

The Mohican is still looking like the best candidate.

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I'm not keen on the circular shower cubicles.

They all seem to be built to the same diameter which is suitable for a 12 year old kid, but not a 60 year old Grumpy (who buy more motorhomes than 12 year olds). Let's face it in the majority of cases when you get to buy a motorhome you've, on average, gained a few pounds.

Ours is not so bad as it's a sort of semi-circle with a square area on the side over the wheelarch which gives you somewhere to shove ya bum when you bend to wash lower regions.

The virtually totally circular ones like in the Autosleeper Sandhurst and quite a few Swift Group vans are just unusable for those with the odd extra pound and taller than 5ft 6ins.

It's meant that they've soon been scrubbed off our 'possibles' list.

The other problem is trying to shower with your head in the Heki. Often the floor of the shower is higher than the rest of the van. Anyone over 6ft or so (and the population is gradually getting taller on average) either have to bend all the time they're showering or rub their head on the downlighter/ceiling/vent. Not very comfortable and a few more knocked off the 'possibles' list.

A decent size washroom with a shower to fit a 6ft 2ins, 17 stone racing snake is all we want.

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peedee said:
Sue,

I've looked at the Cheyenne range, your model is a little too big for my driveway and I am not very keen on fixed beds. They take up too much living space when you consider you are only going to use them on average a third of a day and most you have to CLIMB into. Ok in warmer climates but when in this country you spend a far greater proportion of time in your van they are a no no for me. I prefer a more open environment with lots of daytime space.

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HI Peedee,

As you say the layout is not suitable for everyone but in response to your points against the Cheyenne, I would just like to point out what is is about the Cheyenne that we personally like about it:

With there only being the 2 of us we find there is ample living/lounging space not to mention the benefits of the spacious and seperate kitchen area. I agree the Cheyenne is a 'big un' though 8O and I know that being on the larger side is very often a great big NO NO for a lot of motorhomers. For some driving around in such a big vehicle would be their idea of a complete nightmare! 8O Fortunatley, my husband (I daren't drive it) is not phased by the Chyenne's size and happily drives ours all over. Another plus point is that thankfully our driveway at home can comfortably accomodate ours, which I must say is a major factor for us. We like having our MH all set up and ready to go whenever the fancy takes us and if we couldn't keep our MH at home we would have definitely looked for a smaller vehicle for sure.

Our last motorhome was a Swift Kontiki, which again was a lovely motorhome and we enjoyed our travels in her immensley and even now, whenever we see a Kontiki on the road, some wonderful memories come flooding back of our happy times in her! The Kontiki had the option of a fixed bed or a rear end lounge and when we bought her, we opted for the rear end lounge model instead. We decided that the extra living space would be far more useful to us and thought making the double bed up every night was a small price to pay for the extra daytime space. It had a pull down over the cab double bed, but with my knee problem I found the step ledder access too dodgy, so sadly the overcab bed rarely got used. To be honest, after a while we did get a bit fed up of making the bed up at the end of each day and so when we decided to change the Kontiki, a fixed bed became top of our wish list and I must say that now that we have sampled the luxury of fixed beds, we personally would never go back to making beds up ever again. If hubby or I fancy a little nap ever or feel unwell, its great being able to go and lie down in a seperately sectioned off bedroom and climb into a comfortable and ready made up bed and for us it's a definite advantage. We like the fact that if we have been out for the night or had an evening in reading, watching TV or enjoying a drink or a meal with motorhoming friends, that when it comes time for bed we can just turn off the lights and fall into bed with none of the clat of making up beds etc ........ let's face it this is not always easy after a couple of bottles of wine hic hic! :lol: :lol: :lol: Another thing we like is not having to pack away all our bedding every morning before we can sit down with our morning cuppa or the inconvenience of having to store quilts, sleeping bags, memory foam mattress toppers and pillows etc somewhere during the day, which of course inevitably takes up valuable locker space.

The beauty of having choice is that there is a layout out there in the motorhoming world to suit everyone and we all have our preferences for one reason or another - however, sometimes it just takes a little while to find the right one to tick all our boxes! I'm glad you and I have found ours and I just hope that posts like ours will help people such as Sara to find the right one for them too!

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peedee said:
Sue,

I've looked at the Cheyenne range, your model is a little too big for my driveway and I am not very keen on fixed beds. They take up too much living space when you consider you are only going to use them on average a third of a day and most you have to CLIMB into. Ok in warmer climates but when in this country you spend a far greater proportion of time in your van they are a no no for me. I prefer a more open environment with lots of daytime space.

peedee
Personally I can never understand why this argument about fixed beds comes up time and time again, you either want one or you don't :wink: and for many people like us we enjoy having that luxury BUT for those that don't want one fine.

For us personally after having a caravan that was in storage one of the biggest factors was having a MH that would fit on our drive............but again for anyone that doesn't mind tooing and frooing to a storage compound fine, you pays your money and you makes your choice :lol:
 

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Thanks guys,

Peedee yes we'd be looking at around a 2000/2001 model due to budget constraints :D One question, can the lounge bench seats be used as single beds or are they too short?

The Cheyenne really is too big for us - parking at our storgage place would be very very tight.

Oh yes, got to be RHD too as 99% of our touring will be UK and Ireland. M/H number 3 may be LHD as we venture overseas once we've done the UK!!

The Mohican is still looking like the best candidate.

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You could also look at the Lunar 720 Roadstar.

Very similar to the Mohican and manufactured in the years you are looking at.
 

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sjl1970 said:
Thanks guys,

Peedee yes we'd be looking at around a 2000/2001 model due to budget constraints :D One question, can the lounge bench seats be used as single beds or are they too short?
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Mine is not quite a standard layout but you can certainly use the two bench seats as single beds. My nearside one has been shortened slightly and if you were over 5ft 6inches it would be a bit short but on the standard layout I am guessing you would probably be ok up to 5ft 10inches. Best check it out before you buy.

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HI Peedee,

As you say the layout is not suitable for everyone but in response to your points against the Cheyenne, I would just like to point out what is is about the Cheyenne that we personally like about it:

With there only being the 2 of us we find there is ample living/lounging space not to mention the benefits of the spacious and seperate kitchen area. I agree the Cheyenne is a 'big un' though 8O and I know that being on the larger side is very often a great big NO NO for a lot of motorhomers.

The beauty of having choice is that there is a layout out there in the motorhoming world to suit everyone and we all have our preferences for one reason or another - however, sometimes it just takes a little while to find the right one to tick all our boxes! I'm glad you and I have found ours and I just hope that posts like ours will help people such as Sara to find the right one for them too!

Sue
Some good points Sue, driving a longer vehicle doesn't bother me either. As an ex tugger my outfit was over 34 ft! Its width that I always worry about and one of the main reasons I have dismissed the Americans. If I could get a longer van on my drive then I would love a low fixed bed for the reasons you state, but only in a larger van which gave plenty of living space. I think many of the smaller fixed bed models are very poky and the bed width far too small and they are definitely not for me. When I make our double up its queen size!

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And that's another thing :?

At home we have a 5ft wide bed.

In our under 20ft long van we have a 4ft 7ins wide at top/4ft 3ins wide at leg end bed which we manage in OK.

But why do UK converters put 4ft wide 'doubles' and if you're lucky maybe 4ft 5ins, into vans that are 25ft long?

If Adria designers can get 4ft 7ins out of 19ft 8ins surely someone can get 5ft out of 25ft?

Sigh :(

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Agree totally. Anything less than 4'6'' isn't a double, and given me & Mrs R are both around 6' tall, I expect that full width rather than assuming one partner is Douglas Bader. Our rear lounge is great for that as it converts to a 7'-wide bed.

We're not intending to change our van for a few years, but the two singles/rear bathroom approach currently tops my list. Other than the Autotrails, I believe Burstner Delfin T700 has it, although I'm not sure if it's still in production (is not on their site, but I saw a new one a couple of weeks ago).
 

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And that's another thing :?

At home we have a 5ft wide bed.

In our under 20ft long van we have a 4ft 7ins wide at top/4ft 3ins wide at leg end bed which we manage in OK.

But why do UK converters put 4ft wide 'doubles' and if you're lucky maybe 4ft 5ins, into vans that are 25ft long?

If Adria designers can get 4ft 7ins out of 19ft 8ins surely someone can get 5ft out of 25ft?

Sigh :(

SDA
I know what you mean and Steve. We opted for the 2 fixed single beds as opposed to the Island bed for those exact reasons. I know when we looked at the Island bed layout for the same model, it looked quite small and I think we would have struggled for room. Also, with the Island bed layout you did not have the advantage of the large rear end bathroom and instead it had a separate toilet and shower located either side, inbetween the bedroom and the kitchen.

Gawd knows how on earth 6ft plus tall, muscle bound men get on with some of these beds LOL?????? Mind you ........ if one of them was on offer (a 6ft tall muscle bound man that is) then somehow I think I'd find a way. :wink: You know what they say "Where's there's a will - there's a way!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Agree totally. Anything less than 4'6'' isn't a double, and given me & Mrs R are both around 6' tall, I expect that full width rather than assuming one partner is Douglas Bader. Our rear lounge is great for that as it converts to a 7'-wide bed.

We're not intending to change our van for a few years, but the two singles/rear bathroom approach currently tops my list. Other than the Autotrails, I believe Burstner Delfin T700 has it, although I'm not sure if it's still in production (is not on their site, but I saw a new one a couple of weeks ago).
You have to watch out sometimes on the two singles layouts cos they assume one sleeper is 6ins shorter than the other. In our case it happens to be fine cos Mrs SDA is 5ft 2ins in her beautiful stockinged feet (my pocket rocket) and I'm 6ft 2ins.

If you're both around 6ft there may be a problem.

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