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I decided that it was time I explored changing from Calor gas to Gaslow. Whilst I was at my local stockist I asked if they could fit a 6kg Gaslow bottle with manual changeover. I also explained that I would like to retain a 6kg propane calor gas bottle as a backup. After some discussion they concluded it was not possible to fit the filler in the locker and still allow room for the propane calor bottle to be removed for refilling. :(
They suggested 2*6kg Gaslow bottles which would add a further £150 to the cost. 8O With diesel heating I don't need 2 Gaslow bottles but I would like to keep the propane bottle because there are some places in Europe where LPG refills are not easy to find.
Finally, my question. Does anyone out there have this set up on a Symbol or Pavo? :?:
 

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Interested to follow this, as I was wondering along similar lines for our Symbol.
However it has an onboard gas locker and only allows for a 6 kg cyclinder & a 4.5 smaller unit which sits on the wheelarch. So could have a 6 kg gaslow but still retain the smaller cyclinder as a back up :?:
 

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camper69 said:
Surely if you are not using gas for heating then your gas usage will be quite low. You should come across somewhere to fill before you run out of gas.

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Hi Derek,
I had thought of that but in Europe I do not tend to stay on camp sites and I estimate 6kg would last no more than 10 days. I suppose I like the idea of having a back up.
If there is no solution to my problem then I will either stay with Calor Gas :cry: or install a single Gaslow bottle.
 

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**** said:
Interested to follow this, as I was wondering along similar lines for our Symbol.
However it has an onboard gas locker and only allows for a 6 kg cyclinder & a 4.5 smaller unit which sits on the wheelarch. So could have a 6 kg gaslow but still retain the smaller cyclinder as a back up :?:
Hi ****,
My gas locker can take 2*6kg bottles,
I asked my local dealer if I could use the 3.9kg propane with a 6kg Gaslow and once again the filler bracket would prevent the smaller bottle from being removed.
I asked about locating the filler in the body of the vehicle but they muttered something about double skinned, support structures and in short it was too difficult.
 

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Hi Orian, what about considering a camping gaz 907 butane cylinder as your emergency spare for when you can't find an autogas fillup? Camping gaz is widely available in Europe I believe, and the bottle might fit. Also you can get a Gaslow adaptor for it and have a manual switchover between the Gaslow and Camping gaz. I am trying to decide whether to do this with the new Devon Aztec I'm getting in July. I am going to miss the capacity my present Hymer 544 has as the new van can only accomodate two 3.9 kg propane bottles. If I cannot modify a locker to allow a 6kg gaslow I may fit a gas tank underneath. ( The new van is a LWB Ducato panel van conversion).
 

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I may be missing the point, but if they can install two bottles and the filler, why can't they install one bottle and the filler and leave room for at least a 3.4kg calor propane bottle as well...
Or if they have to cut a hole in the wall of the van, what is so difficult? Surely they can check what is behind it first in case there is a reinforcing rib or something...
If I wasn't doing it myself i'd be asking another dealer...
But also, if you are onsite for 10 days or more, do you fetch and carry water and waste or move the van? If the van is static 10 days or more then why not buy and use a local gas bottle and stand it outside the van?
I have 1 11kg gaslow and a claor propane 3.4kg as backup, but I'm seriously thinging of removing the calor one as I will never need it... Different van though.
 

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Sorry,
I read your problem through properly now...
I have gaslow and it is very easy to refill, certainly in France most supermarkets do the gas... So i'd be pretty sure the 6kg and a small 3.9kg calor would sort you out... And a bit less weight too.
Sorry for misreading earlier.
 

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I have 1 x 6Kg Gaslow fitted in my Symbol. I bought the dual kit but dispensed with the 2nd cylinder as I realised that with diesel heating and only cooking and fridge using gas the space would be better used for storage.

I don't understand the comment about not being able to remove the cylinder. They are a bit tricky to remove anyway on the Symbol but I dont think have a gaslow fitted would make it any more tricky. I fitted the filler before I put the cylinder(s) in so I know there is room.

However I have been away for 8 days recently without filling up. I have just topped it up again with 9L so I think that meant it was about 3/4 empty

I havent forgotten that I promised you some pictures of my installation Orian, its just that I have been in hospital having a hernia repair. :(

Peter
 

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Here are a couple of pictures of my Symbol Gaslow installation. I said I would send them to Orian but others may find them of use.

As you will see I fitted the gaslow bracket to the roof of the gas locker on the left hand side. However the thin galvanised sheet used for the roof is not firm enough and it wobbled around and the self tapping screws fell out.

So I made a reinforcing plate from a piece of galvanised steel. I cut a hole in it and pop-riveted it to the inside of the front wall - see the second picture below. I also used pop rivets to fix the bracket to the roof

Its now really solid and works well. There is loads of room in there for a second cylinder but we use it for hookup cables, hoses, walking boots, folding steps etc etc.

Peter



 

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jocie said:
Hi Orian, what about considering a camping gaz 907 butane cylinder as your emergency spare for when you can't find an autogas fillup? Camping gaz is widely available in Europe I believe, and the bottle might fit. Also you can get a Gaslow adaptor for it and have a manual switchover between the Gaslow and Camping gaz. I am trying to decide whether to do this with the new Devon Aztec I'm getting in July. I am going to miss the capacity my present Hymer 544 has as the new van can only accomodate two 3.9 kg propane bottles. If I cannot modify a locker to allow a 6kg gaslow I may fit a gas tank underneath. ( The new van is a LWB Ducato panel van conversion).
Hi Jocie,
Yes that is another option, thank you.
 

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short-stick said:
I may be missing the point, but if they can install two bottles and the filler, why can't they install one bottle and the filler and leave room for at least a 3.4kg calor propane bottle as well...
Or if they have to cut a hole in the wall of the van, what is so difficult? Surely they can check what is behind it first in case there is a reinforcing rib or something...
If I wasn't doing it myself i'd be asking another dealer...
But also, if you are onsite for 10 days or more, do you fetch and carry water and waste or move the van? If the van is static 10 days or more then why not buy and use a local gas bottle and stand it outside the van?
I have 1 11kg gaslow and a claor propane 3.4kg as backup, but I'm seriously thinging of removing the calor one as I will never need it... Different van though.
Hi short-stick,
Sorry if i did not explain this fully. Once the filler bracket is installed in the locker it would not be possible to remove the propane bottle when it is empty. They did demonstrate this whilst i was at the workshop. I cannot comment on the problems they mentioned cutting a hole in the van as I do not know the construction of the side wall.
We do not tend to stay in one place for more than 2 days and yes I wish I could fit the 11kg Gaslow in my locker, alas it is too small. This seems to be the one of the disadvantages of the high top.
 

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Here are a couple of pictures of my Symbol Gaslow installation. I said I would send them to Orian but others may find them of use.

As you will see I fitted the gaslow bracket to the roof of the gas locker on the left hand side. However the thin galvanised sheet used for the roof is not firm enough and it wobbled around and the self tapping screws fell out.

So I made a reinforcing plate from a piece of galvanised steel. I cut a hole in it and pop-riveted it to the inside of the front wall - see the second picture below. I also used pop rivets to fix the bracket to the roof

Its now really solid and works well. There is loads of room in there for a second cylinder but we use it for hookup cables, hoses, walking boots, folding steps etc etc.

Peter



Hi Peter,
Thank you for the pictures. As they say a picture speaks a 1000 words. I will give this some further thought.
I do hope you make a speedy recovery. Many thanks.
 

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I have a 2003 Autosleeper Symbol and have a 6kg Gaslow refillable and a3.9kg standard propane bottle. I'll be carrying the camping gaz adapter and regulator for dire emergencies, but don't think I being using them unless I venture down to Spain in which case I will get a camping gaz butane cylinder before leaving the UK.

It's pretty crowded in the symbol gas cupboard. Tomorrow, I'll change all the rubber hoses, and fill up for the first time.
 

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I have a 2003 Autosleeper Symbol and have a 6kg Gaslow refillable and a3.9kg standard propane bottle. I'll be carrying the camping gaz adapter and regulator for dire emergencies, but don't think I being using them unless I venture down to Spain in which case I will get a camping gaz butane cylinder before leaving the UK.

It's pretty crowded in the symbol gas cupboard. Tomorrow, I'll change all the rubber hoses, and fill up for the first time.
Hi Zozzer,
Thanks for the picture and info. Where did you fit your Gaslow filler?
 

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orian said:
Zozzer said:
I have a 2003 Autosleeper Symbol and have a 6kg Gaslow refillable and a3.9kg standard propane bottle. I'll be carrying the camping gaz adapter and regulator for dire emergencies, but don't think I being using them unless I venture down to Spain in which case I will get a camping gaz butane cylinder before leaving the UK.

It's pretty crowded in the symbol gas cupboard. Tomorrow, I'll change all the rubber hoses, and fill up for the first time.
Hi Zozzer,
Thanks for the picture and info. Where did you fit your Gaslow filler?
The filler is on the side of the van. I couldn't bring myself to drill the hole through the panel myself( yes chicken), so I got Dave Newell Motorhome services to drill through and fit it.
 

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Thank you to everyone for their useful advice and pictures. I am still thinking about which way to jump so do not be put off by posting your ideas.
 
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