Turbo waste gate spindle partially seized. A problem with vehicles that are not used much.
Loddy
Loddy
Going up Hills
Hi all
I wonder if any one can give me some advise on what I can do, I had my motorhome for two years now it’s a Swift Gazelle F63 Fiat Ducato 2.8 with 25000 mile on the clock, our first trip was down Cornwall I had problems going up some hills some times it will be OK and other times I would end up going through the gears then in to first gear, when I got back I took back to the people I got it from, they check it over and said they could not find any thing wrong with it,
On a straight road no problem well pleased with the girl, went away again this time to lake district same thing, I can not have it chipped I think it is called as I have a mechanical turbo on her, I then took to a diesel garage and he changed the oil & air filter and put some active in the tank, after about 10 miles I could notice the difference in her went to Scotland again thing some hills no problems then other struggling to get up them
It seems to come and go any ideas any one
Thanks
I wonder if any one can give me some advise on what I can do, I had my motorhome for two years now it’s a Swift Gazelle F63 Fiat Ducato 2.8 with 25000 mile on the clock, our first trip was down Cornwall I had problems going up some hills some times it will be OK and other times I would end up going through the gears then in to first gear, when I got back I took back to the people I got it from, they check it over and said they could not find any thing wrong with it,
On a straight road no problem well pleased with the girl, went away again this time to lake district same thing, I can not have it chipped I think it is called as I have a mechanical turbo on her, I then took to a diesel garage and he changed the oil & air filter and put some active in the tank, after about 10 miles I could notice the difference in her went to Scotland again thing some hills no problems then other struggling to get up them
It seems to come and go any ideas any one
Thanks
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Air leak on the hoses going to/from the intercooler, or burst intercooler. Does it whistle when strugglimg on hills?
David
David
Hi materials
I've read somewhere about the "Mass Air Sensor" (what ever that is) can give power loss on gradients and when pulling away. Perhaps it's worth checking out. As well as the turbo as suggested by other members.
Good luck
David
I've read somewhere about the "Mass Air Sensor" (what ever that is) can give power loss on gradients and when pulling away. Perhaps it's worth checking out. As well as the turbo as suggested by other members.
Good luck
David
It could be any or all of the things so far mentioned.
As far as I know all turbos are mechanical by their nature, and as far as I know all 2.8 can be chipped, mine is, 2001 2.8 Ducato, what a lot of folk don't realise is if you fly down the motorway, then pull into the services and just turn of the engine, it causes a lot of damage to the turbo it's self, it's better if you just take it steady for the last couple of minutes to let the turbo cool down a little, it doesn't need to be cold, but not glowing red either, and yes they can glow red.
My intercooler pipe came off last time we were away, sounds a bit like the exhaust blowing badly but not as harsh more muffled, so I think you would have mentioned that.
Mass air sensors cause problems but usually not intermittently.
We nearly got a 63 gazelle, nice MH, but was put off by the bed making routine, even the salesmen in 3 places couldn't show us the correct way to arrange the cushions, we tried it on our own, apart from that a very roomy MH, good for kids, and it went like stink too, but we like our Laika too.
Kev.
As far as I know all turbos are mechanical by their nature, and as far as I know all 2.8 can be chipped, mine is, 2001 2.8 Ducato, what a lot of folk don't realise is if you fly down the motorway, then pull into the services and just turn of the engine, it causes a lot of damage to the turbo it's self, it's better if you just take it steady for the last couple of minutes to let the turbo cool down a little, it doesn't need to be cold, but not glowing red either, and yes they can glow red.
My intercooler pipe came off last time we were away, sounds a bit like the exhaust blowing badly but not as harsh more muffled, so I think you would have mentioned that.
Mass air sensors cause problems but usually not intermittently.
We nearly got a 63 gazelle, nice MH, but was put off by the bed making routine, even the salesmen in 3 places couldn't show us the correct way to arrange the cushions, we tried it on our own, apart from that a very roomy MH, good for kids, and it went like stink too, but we like our Laika too.
Kev.
Hi All
Hay thanks very much for the information at least I can start eliminate things so hopefully I can narrow it down to what is causing the problem
The trouble is where I live near Great Yarmouth there is not many places that can get the motorhome in to their garage to have a look
Hay thanks very much for the information at least I can start eliminate things so hopefully I can narrow it down to what is causing the problem
The trouble is where I live near Great Yarmouth there is not many places that can get the motorhome in to their garage to have a look
not many hills to test it on either :roll: :lol: :lol:materials said:Hi All
Hay thanks very much for the information at least I can start eliminate things so hopefully I can narrow it down to what is causing the problem
The trouble is where I live near Great Yarmouth there is not many places that can get the motorhome in to their garage to have a look
Are these any help?
http://www.mouseability.co.uk/simpsons_motor_caravan.htm
http://www.yell.com/listings/DoFindListings/1289283/Beck's-Motorhomes/GARAGE-SERVICES
http://www.simpsonsmc.com/
Cheers and good luck
David
http://www.mouseability.co.uk/simpsons_motor_caravan.htm
http://www.yell.com/listings/DoFindListings/1289283/Beck's-Motorhomes/GARAGE-SERVICES
http://www.simpsonsmc.com/
Cheers and good luck
David
Don't know the area, but are there any small garages that do luton trannys etc, they should be able to help and at better rates.
Kev.
Kev.
Hi,
I don't know if Fiat do such a thing but a mechanically driven charger is called a supercharger as opposed to a turbocharger which is exhaust driven :roll: who knows,
Regards,
Chris
I don't know if Fiat do such a thing but a mechanically driven charger is called a supercharger as opposed to a turbocharger which is exhaust driven :roll: who knows,
Regards,
Chris
Hi All
Are there any warning lights coming up on dash?
What you’re describing is the engine going into limp mode, as the name suggests the ECU detects an engine fault and only allows enough power to limp home this is to protect the engine from damage.
My initial thought is maf sensor I had a similar problem and it was only under load it occurred.
A common fault for the JTD engine is one of the injector cables is too short and over time can become worn giving an intermittent problem signal to the ECU, can’t remember which one but it is obvious if you look at them its stretched tight.
If you have the electronic throttle pedal there is a fault that develops with the wiring causing a high resistance between the throttle body and the ECU.
Really need to know the year, is it a JTD engine?
Are there any warning lights coming up on dash?
What you’re describing is the engine going into limp mode, as the name suggests the ECU detects an engine fault and only allows enough power to limp home this is to protect the engine from damage.
My initial thought is maf sensor I had a similar problem and it was only under load it occurred.
A common fault for the JTD engine is one of the injector cables is too short and over time can become worn giving an intermittent problem signal to the ECU, can’t remember which one but it is obvious if you look at them its stretched tight.
If you have the electronic throttle pedal there is a fault that develops with the wiring causing a high resistance between the throttle body and the ECU.
Really need to know the year, is it a JTD engine?
Bumpmaterials said:Hi all
I wonder if any one can give me some advise on what I can do, I had my motorhome for two years now it's a Swift Gazelle F63 Fiat Ducato 2.8 with 25000 mile on the clock, our first trip was down Cornwall I had problems going up some hills some times it will be OK and other times I would end up going through the gears then in to first gear, when I got back I took back to the people I got it from, they check it over and said they could not find any thing wrong with it,
On a straight road no problem well pleased with the girl, went away again this time to lake district same thing, I can not have it chipped I think it is called as I have a mechanical turbo on her, I then took to a diesel garage and he changed the oil & air filter and put some active in the tank, after about 10 miles I could notice the difference in her went to Scotland again thing some hills no problems then other struggling to get up them
It seems to come and go any ideas any one
Thanks
Hello all,
Materials Peter has been exchanging PMs with me (having a similar Vehicle) regarding his Original Problem which persists.
This Post is to get it back up on the front page for Peter who should soon re-appear with an update of his progress.
Regards to all from Bob L
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