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Parking is it a motorhome or not.

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Parking restriction and enforcement varies from area to area, usually mechanical restriction or signage is used.
It is this signage that I have a problem with. The signage normally states no caravans or motor homes.
My camper will fit under any height or width restriction, it is less that 5m long and fits into any parking space without hang-over.
Is my camper classified as a motorhome or not. Does this signage restrict me from parking or not?
I must say that I normally ignore such signs and park as my opinion is that they do not apply to me. I even park in Bournemouth without any problems to date. Am I leaving myself open for a penalty or not?

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I would call yours a van with windows as it fits parking bays and under height barrier Take piccis of ordinary vans parked up for evidence of size criteria.

Dave P



agree with dtp the facists would have to peer in your windows to realise was a motorhome,
Parking

I think you are just showing off buttons!

What is the classification on your Registration Documents?

Trev :wink:
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teemyob said:
I think you are just showing off buttons!What is the classification on your Registration Documents?Trev :wink:
Only a show-off Trev that sounds like a step up from a troll :roll:
My reg doc still states non motor home Trev, sorry can't remember the terminology but I do have the option of changing that to a motor home if I wish to do so. It would cost me a lot less each year but could change my status. Many identical VWs that were not factory manufactured don't have this option.
I think that relying on the tax disc for identifying parking abuse could open a can of worms for the local councils.
So can I park or not Trev???????
I would question whether the "ban" on motorhomes parking is legal. They might as well say no white vans, or MPV's?
Of course it needs somebody to challenge this with the particular authority. :roll:
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buttons said:
teemyob said:
I think you are just showing off buttons!What is the classification on your Registration Documents?Trev :wink:
Only a show-off Trev that sounds like a step up from a troll :roll:
My reg doc still states non motor home Trev, sorry can't remember the terminology but I do have the option of changing that to a motor home if I wish to do so. It would cost me a lot less each year but could change my status. Many identical VWs that were not factory manufactured don't have this option.
I think that relying on the tax disc for identifying parking abuse could open a can of worms for the local councils.
So can I park or not Trev???????
Oh yes you can Park it. However, please do accept that some small minded, anti motorhome jobsworth may well decide otherwise. Will then issue some kind of ticket or penalty notice and you will have no end of hastle trying to sort it all out.

However, the chances of the aforementioned are very slim.

Trev.
The small print on the signs normally refers you to the full rule book that is available for scrutiny at the local council office. Has anyone ever read these rules?
I was using my Hymer for work and was parked in my office car park and was given a ticket. When I checked why it was because my parking pass was not visible. I asked to speak to the attendent-I think it was Jimmy Krankie!
He said he couldn't see it,it was clearly displayed on the windscreen,I could see it,but then I am 6'3"!!! It cost me a lot of time to sort it out.
Due to it's size and the fact that it can park in a normal parking space, I would classify it as a multi purpose vehicle, and not as a motorhome.
The registration class for 'motorhomes' is "Motorcaravan" ( that could be "Motor Caravan"; ) whichever, a ban on 'motorhome' parking will of course, not apply to a 'Motorcaravan' ..............

Harvey
The one restriction that gets me annoyed the most is where they ban any vehicle with means of cooking on board.

What can be the reason for this ban?
If it's not a motorhome you shouldn't get a parking ticket,BUT, your speed is restricted to commercial van limits. Not much fun with your engine? 8)
derekfaeberwick said:
If it's not a motorhome you shouldn't get a parking ticket,BUT, your speed is restricted to commercial van limits. Not much fun with your engine? 8)
It's only the 'taxation class' that changes - to PLG. The 'body type' remains motor caravan, which is what governs the the speed limits (assuming the number of seats and the gross vehicle weight stay the same). This issue has been discussed on the Brickyard forum - see http://tinyurl.com/lnjtyt.
Surely how the owners of the car park classify vehicles is up to them - there is no compulsion on them to conform to any standard.

What matters is how they define the vehicles in the terms and conditions. This is what makes parking a MH so difficult - there being no standard definitions for parking.
The one restriction that gets me annoyed the most is where they ban any vehicle with means of cooking on board.

What can be the reason for this ban?

Something to do with worries about LPG, perhaps?
rambling_sid said:
The one restriction that gets me annoyed the most is where they ban any vehicle with means of cooking on board.

What can be the reason for this ban?

Something to do with worries about LPG, perhaps?


Or to stop fast food 'vans setting up on site. I have seen the proprietors of such try hard to stop litter, with bins provided, and have seen people ignore the bin completely! So to save on litter the local authority will ban these 'vans. Motorcaravans just get oiked into the mess :cry:
rambling_sid said:
The one restriction that gets me annoyed the most is where they ban any vehicle with means of cooking on board.

What can be the reason for this ban?

Something to do with worries about LPG, perhaps?


I asked our local council about the "no cooking, no sleeping" rule in the local car parks - the answer was it's to stop the "travellers" (same as the height barriers); as usual it's completely unenforceable, and nobody has ever been prosecuted. As if a group of "travellers" would park up in a car park, get the kids, dogs, fridges, prams, chairs and assorted junk out of the back of the transit pickup, then see the signs and say, oh dear, we can't stop here we're not allowed to sleep overnight, or cook the dinner! Everybody back in the 'van.......

:roll: :?
oldun said:
Surely how the owners of the car park classify vehicles is up to them - there is no compulsion on them to conform to any standard.
What matters is how they define the vehicles in the terms and conditions. This is what makes parking a MH so difficult - there being no standard definitions for parking.
No Motorhomes No motorised caravans etc with reference to the local rules displayed at the council office for clarification can be somewhat ambiguous.

No parking if you have facilities for cooking is the one statement that you cannot dispute. The only area that i have seen this is Swanage.
My opinion is that if you come across this then leave the town and don't return. They are definitely anti motorhomes.

I think that it would be a good idea to list all councils that display this warning.
rambling_sid said:
The one restriction that gets me annoyed the most is where they ban any vehicle with means of cooking on board.

What can be the reason for this ban?

Something to do with worries about LPG, perhaps?


That's possible but they could simply ban the use of it.

Why not ban cars etc with spare cans of fuel, plumbers with gas blow torches, etc?
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