[petepub]

I have a 2009 Autocruise Gleneagle which only has 2 seat belts for the driver and front seated passenger.
Can someone travel in the back on the side facing seats with no seat belt?
We are thinking of taking our grand daughter who will be sat in the front in the correct chair for her weight and size so my wife will have to travel in the rear.
Am I legal but mainly are we safe.

 

[toojo]

I have the same problem.I have a 6 berth and want to take my 3 grandkids,but only have 2 rear seat belts.

 

[locovan]

http://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/motorhome_seat_belt_regulations.php
It is all down to the age of the vehicle

 

[locovan]

http://www.motorhomeinfo.co.uk/Motorhomes_and_the_Law/mots.xalter

We have side facing seat with Lap belt and it looks like we shouldnt carry passengers as they have deemed dangerous.
Well we didnt know that.

 

[toojo]

I presume that 2 point belts are lap belts.

 

[DTPCHEMICALS]

Just a thought , although your vehicles are reg 2009 they may have been manufactured prior to the date when seat belts had to be fitted.
Theshould have forward facing seats equiped with seat belts.
How many travelling seats are specified to how many berth is another question.
Dealer should fit these even if van is old stock the law is clear.

Dave P

 

[Grizzly]

Can someone travel in the back on the side facing seats with no seat belt?
...mainly are we safe.

Have your wife sit in the back - unbelted- drive down a quiet country lane and then do an emergency stop.

Then ask yourself that question again.

I think you'll find that the answer is NO, she is definitely NOT safe whether legal or not.

( Apart from anything else I think that, sideways on, unsupported by a belt, she will find it tiring and uncomfortable)

G

 

[123987]

rear seat belts on bench seats

we have just bought a 2009 bessacarr e425 and ours dose not have rear seat belts . contacted swift motorhomes and thay said it is legal to carry passengers in the back and these motor homes can not be fitted with after market seat belts. also swift said if seat belts had to be fitted thay would not produce motor homes with L AND U shaped lounges as this would be illegal to carry passengers. Also had plice advice gray area on rear belts . Final thought if law becomes more clearer on rear belts and u do need them for rear passengers seek legal advice for recovering your mony back as motorhomes are not cheap toys to make a mistake with. We are just waiting to be stopped and fined in ours

 

[CaGreg]

Re: rear seat belts on bench seats

[quote="gary40ne" We are just waiting to be stopped and fined in ours[/quote]

Well if you are very lucky that is the worst that will happen to you.

Ca

 

[Grizzly]

Re: rear seat belts on bench seats

We are just waiting to be stopped and fined in ours

Have you given any thought as to why it is not a good idea to carry a passenger without a seat belt ?

Let's say you have to stop suddenly when you're travelling at 60 mph. Your back seat passengers will carry on travelling at 60mph until they hit something- ie you, the windscreen or a piece of furniture. At that speed they will embed themselves pretty firmly in whatever they hit.

I hope you carry a large first aid kit.

G

 

[DTPCHEMICALS]

Spot on Grizzly, thats why bus and train incidents produce many injuries.
A health and saftey officer will conclude : The likelihood of a crash is small going on insurance statistics. But the injuries caused in a crash May be great.
Dave P

 

[Grizzly]

A health and saftey officer will conclude : The likelihood of a crash is small going on insurance statistics. But the injuries caused in a crash May be great.
Dave P

...and it doesn't have to be a crash Dave. Stopping for the dog that runs out in front of you, or the driver that you don't see on a roundabout or the lights that change suddenly.....

G