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No MoHo, no Go Go.
 

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Glad you both had a good time G.
 

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Speaking as ex what are now called expeditionary forces, I'm firmly of the view that there's no such thing as wild camping in a motorhome (or a caravan or tent for that matter)! Bivvying, that's wild camping but camping off grid in a motorhome isn't wild.

Me and my colleagues (who are ex RAF Support Helicopter, Fleet Air Arm Junglies or Army and used to bivvying), were discussing how people refer to off grid camping as wild camping, the conversation went roughly like this:

One of the team mentioned somebody had been parked up in a verge near them in a motorhome for a couple of days...

Me: "Some motorhhomers call that wild camping".

After much guffawing and scoffing (which went on for a long time), the conversation carried on like this...

"But you're in a motorhome, you're not freezing your knackers off, getting wet, getting trampled by the local wildlife and you don't have to dig a scrape to have a poo!"

"I know" I replied,

"What's so wild about that"? they asked,

"You don't have lecky or water" I replied, matter of factly,

"We refer you to our earlier comment, you're not freezing your knackers off, getting wet, getting trampled by the local wildlife and you don't have to dig a scrape to have a poo!" they replied,

"I know" I replied,

"So there's nothing actually wild about it" they pressed,

"Not really" I replied,

"All of those times you had to bivvy out on Salisbury Plain or Stamford or Otterburn you would have killed to be tucked up nice and warm in a motorhome wouldn't you"? they asked,

"Absolutely" I replied,

"And you wouldn't have called that wild would you"?

"Nope"! I replied,

"So what do you call the type of camping this bloke (referring to the motorhomer parked up in the verge), was doing wild camping would you"? they asked,

"No, at best, it's off grid camping" I replied.

Some still scoffed at that but we moved on to something else after that.

But like them, I'm ideologically opposed to calling off grid camping wild camping. I suppose the only wild bit is getting rid of your black waste but it's still not the same as digging a scrape is it?>:)

I guess it's all about perspective really. I must say I don't miss the taste of hexamine in my food either.

Apart from that, the wonderful MrsWez is against the idea and wouldn't settle and if she's not a happy camper, I won't be (she's all right with aires and FP, taking the view that you're meant to be there).
So why do you have a motorhome then?
 

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For us we consider wilding to be off the beaten track. We have never stayed on a campsite since we started in a tent 16 years ago.
 
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I tell a lie, we did stay on a couple of sites when tenting, but only one in a van which was Sligachan on Skye whilst it was closed for winter, we had imbibed at the Hotel opposite.
 
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Semantics really, and a matter of perspective, your perspective is by its nature quite extreme, and respectfully not really valid in this context, sort of one man's mea t etc.
 

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I see you're in Hampshire, so 😁😁😁😁 I could say you have no idea what winter is like, but I expect you do really just elsewhere, 8 really do not think it's really wild what we like to do, but it had to be called something we just went with the flow, and off grid sounds just a bit twee to me and I would ascribe that to those who build houses off grid because a moho is by construction off grid in itself up to a point.


Some cretins call it boondocking, err ballcocks deffo not that.
 
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Oh go on. Not had a good fallout for yonks 😀😁🙂😎
 
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I blame it all on the drugs, I'm just not hearing the voices as much nowadays.
 
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We're off on the morrow, only 2 days though, have to be back for Friday thing, so tax it in the morning, down into town for grub, I'll go up to the tarn to see whats working or not, need the fridge mainly, so you won't hear from me for a while, not expecting a signal don't all clap at once, play nicely.
 

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We are on a forest car park mprth of Helmsley, going to see some birds of prey tomorrow.

Fridge lights okay and stays lit as long as the button is held in, this points me to the wassaname being duff, can't think whats called but the flame gives a current which holds the gas valve open, not a big job for a fit person so I'll just get it looked at in case I'm wrong, the Nordelectric control panel seems to have a mind of its own (Italian made so no surprise there then) and the LB is at 11.9V so I need to get a meter on the terminals to see if it is charging, otherwise it's okay so far.

Oh yeah tyres are pumped up way too high so going to check them tomorrow, door label says 79psi ffs.


Despite having only a 5 speed box its not too bad too drive below 60ish, MPG shows as 28.8 but I'm sure i can better that, its supposed to have had a service recently, I'm not convinced so I'll give all the filtets a coat of looking at when I get home.


Signal is pants here icon is H+ I have to hold phone high to send.
 
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Thermocouple, the very chap. Apart from at home we have been parked pretty level.
 
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Level not a problem. I have yried it in a few plsces even car parks. The forest carpark last night had 2 owls which sounfed to be getting jiggy with it. We just haf lunch at the walled garden in helmsley. Off to some castle next.
 
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At least Basia looks happy and relaxed.
 
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