[Drew]

Nothing wrong with Windows PCs, especially these days. Most of the problems are caused by end users and all the crap they put on them which is a lot easier to do than on other platforms like Apple.

I totally agree with you on that one.

 

[GMJ]

More 'nags' from Microsoft to upgrade to Win 11 on my toolbar daily now.

Ray.

Yes Ray it's been on my lower tool bar for a good week too.

 

[barryd]

Nothing wrong with Windows PCs, especially these days. Most of the problems are caused by end users and all the crap they put on them which is a lot easier to do than on other platforms like Apple.

I totally agree with you on that one.

There is just so much so called free stuff. No such thing as a free lunch. If you just use your laptop or PC with "up to date" paid for software or well trusted free up to date software, decent browser and app protection then chances are you will have no issues. Apple seems a bit more protective and "select" when it comes to their apps and of course most of the junk with spyware, trackers or additional stuff that hijacks your PC or browser is targeted at Windows users because they are still the biggest market for them by a mile.

 

[GMJ]

I've gone over to the darkside! My new laptop arrived yesterday and it has come with Windows 11 on it. As I'm such a basic user I'm not sure what differences I'll notice.

The new laptop has a 17.3 inch screen as we found that we are using it more an more when in the MH watching downloaded stuff and the old (only 1 year old) one has a 14 inch screen. It's the same brand (Acer) but a bit slower due to the chip.

I'll be selling my 'old' laptop shortly once I've de-scudded it. Hopefully I should get a decent price as it's so new.

 

[Pat-H]

I've always updated soon after a new version comes out (not too soon to allow any serious bugs to be sorted) and I've found each version to be a relatively easy transition. Learning new things and adapting to a changed user interface is good for the brain. Sticking with an older version can make the transition to a much newer version a very difficult and frustrating experience.

 

[raynipper]

I'm still hesitating as I need to find and instal more software to view pictures the way I want them and to use the old Casio docking station.
It's all just another time-consuming pain I can do without like changing over to a new phone.

Ray.

 

[Pat-H]

We (wife and I) both switched to the new Google Pixels 6 phones ( just before the pixel 7 came out so got a good deal.)
It asked us to connect to the old phone via the supplied USB cable and copied all the apps, settings, call logs, etc.
Whatsapp auto backs up and that restored fine.
I had to re log into the banking apps and do a bit of twiddling of the phones settings. I guess I spend 2 hours doing both phones. But worth the time as the camera is even better than our last phones.

 

[raynipper]

Ray, we must move with the times, keep up with new technology otherwise we would still be using a slate and chalk.

I have just updated my computers to run on Apples new OS Monterey that arrived on the scene yesterday morning. Obviously it is too early for me to give a verdict as I am still investigating the changes but so far I can't fault it, Im sure that you will adjust to Microsofts OS 11 the more you use it.

Why wait until tomorrow? you might not be here to enjoy what you did today.

I do have a secondary PC that I gave in and updated to Windows 11 a couple of weeks ago and now find various things I either just have to live with or seek various software to get back to using some things I like and have got used to.
Already mentioned Windows Photo Viewer and Picasa but now most of my files are a blank folder and it's only when I open them up I can see the contents unlike Win 10.
Managed to get the old Windows Photo Viewer back again but it took hours. Dislike the centred tool bar as after 20 years going to left corner to find the off/reboot tab it's now in the middle. Plus previously I could click the windows logo to access 'Start' and then Settings, Pictures and Settings, I now get all the old software icons I rarely use.
Win 11 also decided my 2007 version of Office that I use all the time needed to be deleted. This involved copying the Office CD onto a Memory Stick to reload again onto the same PC as before. Just more hassle.

OK it might be a step forward, but I was very happy with how it was and could find/access things I regularly used instantly. Now I have to search all menu options.
The right click menu is limited and half the items are now hidden under 'More Items'.

So far it's just seems it's been messed about for no benefit and even more aggravation and I am still unable to use the old Casio docking station.
I really would not bother except Win 1 will stop being supported at some time.

Ray.

 

[Pudsey_Bear]

For most of us home users it's change for the sake of change, same as buying the latest this that or the other, they blame security issues for half of it, so fix them and stop justyfying the high paid jobs.

 

[GMJ]

Having used it for a month or so now I can't remember the old version tbh as Win11 is doing everything I need...albeit that I'm not a 'super user' by any means,

 

[Pudsey_Bear]

Same when we went up to Win 10, lots of noise, apart from a few start button changes it's no different, except it dowsn't fall over to the BSOD anymore.


Touch wood.

 

[barryd]

I had to work on a Windows 7 laptop remotely the other day with Windows Live Mail and Outlook 2010!

It was like going back in a time machine, took me a while to remember it all. Thank God most stuff and particularly email has gone into the cloud. Some of his stuff went back twenty years. Im now tasked with transferring it all somehow to a new laptop and into Office 365. Should keep me busy for a while I bet.

 

[raynipper]

Welcome back to the real world Baz.

Ray.

 

[Pudsey_Bear]

I had to work on a Windows 7 laptop remotely the other day with Windows Live Mail and Outlook 2010!

It was like going back in a time machine, took me a while to remember it all. Thank God most stuff and particularly email has gone into the cloud. Some of his stuff went back twenty years. Im now tasked with transferring it all somehow to a new laptop and into Office 365. Should keep me busy for a while I bet.

Think about the money.

 

[barryd]

Welcome back to the real world Baz.

Ray.

Im supposed to be retired but its mental here now. I dont like to turn it away though as its good money and I kind of enjoy keeping my hand in really.

LOL! The only trouble with letting your IT get so antiquated though is its now going to cost him a fortune to get it all transferred and updated.

 

[Pudsey_Bear]

Well it was his choice, I keep all my stuff on Dropbox even the install/setup files so I can be up and running on anything really quickly.

 

[barryd]

Well it was his choice, I keep all my stuff on Dropbox even the install/setup files so I can be up and running on anything really quickly.

Yep, its so much easier now. Same with Office 365 if its set up properly. Boot up new PC, set it up, login to Microsoft, download the programs, sync up Onedrive and add your email account and its all done. Takes a while to download it all if your on a cack connection but its pretty easy. An hour tops. Old school transfer will likely take a day and cost him more than the laptop.

 

[greygit]

On Windose 11 permanently now as it seems to be stable and am getting to find all the bits and bobs they have decided to hide.

 

[Pudsey_Bear]

Not even had a notification for it on any of ours yet.

 

[greygit]

Not even had a notification for it on any of ours yet.

I wouldn't bother as the only reason I changed to it was my photo editing software is faster on it.