[Marrabone]

As l have never had a motorhome or caravan before l have just accepted the pump noise as normal. I do notice that its much noisier when the tap is only half open though.

I have removed my plate rack, as it didn't hold my plates very securely, and having used up one cupboard for the microwave, l found it took up too much space. The crockery occupies the back left cupboard and l usually shove a cushion in there to keep the rattles at bay.

I have now had my microwave re-installed and it is a much more secure job. They have used sturdy aluminum angle brackets at the base on both sides as well as steadying the unit at the top.

I have also recently had a swivel fitted on the passenger seat, l can't think why they didn't do this on the 140 as other models have it. I didn't bother with the driver's seat as l think it would be restricted somewhat, because of the bathroom, and its usually just me anyway. It does make quite a difference and l am pleased l had it done.

Do you find that the silicone around the shower tray comes away? I had it re-applied twice but still it pulls away.

Also has anyone added a second battery? The 75 amp is a bit measly and as l have started attending a few rallies l am thinking maybe l ought to get a pair of higher rated ones. I am not sure how to go about this though or even if its possible.

Marrabone

 

[Molenoux]

Hi All

Just home from 4 weeks in Europe. 2600 miles. Story of our experiences so far -

1. Peugeot in cab heater started leaking. Bad smell. Lots of mist on nearside of windscreen. passenger vision ruined. Water levels in engine dropped, requiring regular top ups. Local Peugeot dealer in France said repairs could take a few days, and these would not be under warranty. We decided to keep topping up the water and repair when home again.

2. Heater rattles. It still does. I have tried all sorts of packing, bending of metal, tightening of screws, all to little avail. I am considering replacing the heater with an underfloor job. But just thinking at present.

We have now started to hear loud squeaking noises from, what I think is, the rear spring bushes. No evidence of failure but am still looking.

3. Roof vents noise. At speeds over 60 mph lots of vibration noise occurs. I think the remedy will be to fit wind shields to the van roof at the vent leading edge, similar to the one on our previous Bessacarr.

4. Whale water system. The Good. The pump continues to work, a bit noisy, but it still works. The pipe layout inside the van is still dry, no leaks at all. The Bad. Well what a poor rig up this is overall. First failure was the hose connecting the van to the tap. This sprang a leak about every 6 inches throughout its length. Tried to buy a replacement in Italy, but no joy. (An ordinary garden hose will not do. So ended up cutting the majority off the pipe leaving about 9 inches on the whale fixing end. (Because a very special small clip is needed to fix the pipe to the whale housing, an ordinary screw clip would be too large to fit inside the plastic housing) and neither I nor any dealer in Italy/France we contacted, carry any such spares. We then used our long reel hose to connect to the taps. This is a bit over the top when the tap is only 6 feet away. Next problem to emerge was the o rings on the van connection started to wear, and we now have a very leaky connection. Next problem, Yes we did come across a site where the only tap available was one of those push button types with a funny shaped end. No screw connection. Very messy, to say the least. I find this whale water connection system quite dismal. So what to do about it? Suggestions please would be very welcome.

5. Fuel economy - over 2600 miles the computer says 33 mpg.

We still like the van though, in spite of these problems.

Cheers

Molenoux

 

[Molenoux]

Hi All Again,

Just been handed this cheerful pick me up -Errr


- Mr Cadbury met Miss Rowntree on a Double Decker.

It was just After Eight.

They got off at Quality Street .

My name is 'Polo, I'm the one with the hole' she said with a Wispa.

'I'm Marathon , the one with the nuts' he replied.

He touched her Cream Eggs, which was a Kinder Surprise for her.

Then he slipped his hand into her Snickers, which made her Ripple.

He fondled her Jelly Babies and she rubbed his Tic Tacs.

Soon they were Heart Throbs.

It was a Fab moment as she screamed in Turkish Delight.

But, 3 days later, his Sherbet Dip Dab started to itch.

Turns out Miss Rowntree had been with Bertie Bassett and he had Allsorts!


Cheers


Molenoux :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[stephenpug]

8O 8O 8O We are going to the mosell + the Rhine and Black forrest for 3 weeks on Friday in our 140 now you have got me worried :? :? :?

 

[Molenoux]

Hi Stephenpug,

Hope you enjoy a good holiday, I think you should be ok, though I would take a few hose connectors, sufficient to connect two pipes together and fit onto a smooth ended tap.

The hoses used by Elddis are not the same thickness as ordinary garden hoses. Think about buying a spare clip to refit at the whale fitting end, there is very little spare room within the housing.

I think some of our hose leak problems occurred when we hit temperatures of around 38 c .

Bon journey.

Molenoux

 

[Molenoux]

Hi Marrabone

Sorry to hear about your shower tray. Ours has not been any bother at all so far.

If you find the sealing fails again, perhaps a strip of z section plastic might provide the answer without needing to fix the shower tray too rigidly, as clearly it needs to flex more than the mastic is capable of.

Cheers

Molenoux

 

[stephenpug]

Hi Stephenpug,

Hope you enjoy a good holiday, I think you should be ok, though I would take a few hose connectors, sufficient to connect two pipes together and fit onto a smooth ended tap.

The hoses used by Elddis are not the same thickness as ordinary garden hoses. Think about buying a spare clip to refit at the whale fitting end, there is very little spare room within the housing.

I think some of our hose leak problems occurred when we hit temperatures of around 38 c .

Bon journey.

Molenoux

Hi Molenoux the way i get around the water problem is to carry a 10 gallon water bottle and carry it back and forth to the van :roll: But on the earlier point about the water leaking under the fire in the kitchen area and also from under the bathroom door has been resolved by the mechanic from marquis motorhomes (Tewkesbury) by lifting the shelf out of the wardrobe floor to get into the hot water tank cuboard he then drilled 2 large holes to get his hands into the void at the back of the bathroom sink and repair the leak which turned out to be the overflow pipe had come away so every time we used the bathroom sink it just leaked out so problem solved after 4 x 100 mile trips with the same problem
So all set for our adventure to Gemanys black forrest tomorrow :lol:

 

[stephenpug]

Hi Stephenpug,

Hope you enjoy a good holiday, I think you should be ok, though I would take a few hose connectors, sufficient to connect two pipes together and fit onto a smooth ended tap.

The hoses used by Elddis are not the same thickness as ordinary garden hoses. Think about buying a spare clip to refit at the whale fitting end, there is very little spare room within the housing.

I think some of our hose leak problems occurred when we hit temperatures of around 38 c .

Bon journey.

Molenoux

Hi Molenoux the way i get around the water problem is to carry a 10 gallon water bottle and carry it back and forth to the van :roll: But on the earlier point about the water leaking under the fire in the kitchen area and also from under the bathroom door has been resolved by the mechanic from marquis motorhomes (Tewkesbury) by lifting the shelf out of the wardrobe floor to get into the hot water tank cuboard he then drilled 2 large holes to get his hands into the void at the back of the bathroom sink and repair the leak which turned out to be the overflow pipe had come away so every time we used the bathroom sink it just leaked out so problem solved after 4 x 100 mile trips with the same problem
So all set for our adventure to Gemanys black forrest tomorrow :lol:

 

[FionaG]

Hi both again,
Glad you are still enjoying your 140's in spite of a few probs.

Elddis refused to do anything about the pumpbut in the end Whale came up trumps when our dealer contacted them direct. They sent some sort of damper (?? not technical me) which had been fitted to the pump and it is now a lot quieter.

Happy travels guys.

Off to S Ireland for 3 weeks!

Fiona

 

[Autoquest]

Molenoux: With regards to your heater problem... Look underneath the van and identify the burner unit which sticks out below the floor. Once found, unclip the bottom unit and cover it with some alloy tape and replace. This should cure your tiresome problem - It worked for me

 

[stephenpug]

GRRRRR just got back and guess wot the bathroom sink is still leaking and coming out under the fire so I had to turn mechanic and look into the two 6 inch diameter hole that was drilled by marquis motorhomes to fix the problem and guess what the leak was not the over flow junction but the fixing on the tap so every time we put the tap on water flooded out so now I have to phone marquis motorhomes up AGAIN do a 100 mile round trip so they can look at it then book an appointment to take it back for the repair so that will make at least 7 x 100 mile journeys to fix a simple problem if they had done the job properly in the first place I would have saved a fortune in diesel and lost days off work :twisted:

 

[divil]

Molenoux: With regards to your heater problem... Look underneath the van and identify the burner unit which sticks out below the floor. Once found, unclip the bottom unit and cover it with some alloy tape and replace. This should cure your tiresome problem - It worked for me

Ah...I think this is maybe the problem I'm having with my 140...I was wondering how to get the bottom panel off the heater....so I just pull it then???

Cheers
Paul

 

[Autoquest]

Whatever it is that hangs down below the floor (underneath the van) is held in place by a spring clip. I found that the small piece that drops away is a loose fit and rattles like hell but sounds as though its coming from the heater inside the van. I covered it with some thick alloy tape and persuaded it back into place, re-attached the pin and voila! no noise...

 

[Autoquest]

Stephen, my tip up sink didn't impress me so I stripped the entire bathroom out to have a look... It's not that hard to do and it might pay to have a look yourself for future maintenance.

two screws above the sink and two in the cupboard, a long thin blade to zip through the sikaflex join and the whole lot comes out.

Your tap has 'possibly' popped a pipe because it froze over the winter (like my kitchen tap ) Dead easy to pop back in, just a bugger to do! Not sure about drilling 6" holes though!

How are you all getting on with your shower trays? Cracked yet?

 

[stephenpug]

Stephen, my tip up sink didn't impress me so I stripped the entire bathroom out to have a look... It's not that hard to do and it might pay to have a look yourself for future maintenance.

two screws above the sink and two in the cupboard, a long thin blade to zip through the sikaflex join and the whole lot comes out.

Your tap has 'possibly' popped a pipe because it froze over the winter (like my kitchen tap ) Dead easy to pop back in, just a bugger to do! Not sure about drilling 6" holes though!

How are you all getting on with your shower trays? Cracked yet?

Thanks Autoquest I think it will be easier (and cheaper) to ask a plumber mate of mine to take a look but i am just a little worried about invalidating the warranty you know what it is like any excuse not to pay for a repair :roll:

 

[stephenpug]

Sorry Autoquest the mechanic from marquis took out the false bottom in the wardrobe and drilled two 6 inch diameter holes into the wall that backs into the back of the sink/toilet the holes are cut side by side so they look like 8 so he could get to the drain pipes then promised the long running problem had been solved but in france last week water was flooding out again so i removed the wooden board he had screwed over the holes to find the drain connection dry,so i asked debbie to put the tap on while i was looking in the holes when i saw all the water coming from the bottom of the taps obviously a loose fitting but i cant reach it from these holes and i am worried about attempting to repair it in case it is a faulty tap and the dealership wont sanction it so invalidating my warranty

 

[Autoquest]

That's exactly the problem I had this winter with my kitchen tap which meant removing the fridge... The problem with this kind of repair is that one problem often leads to another. Fridge out, fix tap, fridge in but now the sink drain leaks (another rubbish design) Fridge out, check tap connections, redesign drain, fridge in.

Leaving it to a dealer would have meant (as you know) hundreds of miles and countless visits. At least if I have any sort of problem now in the south of France or similar I can get stuck in and fix it.

 

[Molenoux]

Hi Autoquest

Thanks for the info on underfloor heater rattles.

Looks like the heater part underneath is fairly tight, I tried to wiggle it, but there is very little movement, so I'm not convinced its the source of much rattling.

I did try putting some short lengths of foam pipe insulation over the blind pull down handles while in the up position, this seems to reduce some rattles though not all.

Maybe I'm getting used to them but I don't seem to hear them as much nowadays.

Cheers

Molenoux

 

[FionaG]

Again We Had The Same Problem With The Wash Basin

We found the water had been leaking all down the back of the basin area and under the floor, there was even water seeping into the main living area and soaking the carpets.

It took our local place two goes to fix it as access is difficult. The guy from Motorplus in Derby said the hose they put in in the first place isn't long enough.

Some friends of our had exactly the same prob with their 140 so this is not an isoalted prob. They all have it!
Fiona

 

[stephenpug]

Re: Again We Had The Same Problem With The Wash Basin

We found the water had been leaking all down the back of the basin area and under the floor, there was even water seeping into the main living area and soaking the carpets.

It took our local place two goes to fix it as access is difficult. The guy from Motorplus in Derby said the hose they put in in the first place isn't long enough.

Some friends of our had exactly the same prob with their 140 so this is not an isoalted prob. They all have it!
Fiona

Hi Fiona we had our dealership (marquis motorhomes) cut a hole in the bottom of the wardrobe you lift out the false floor which gives access to your boiler then they cut a large hole into the back of the sink where all the pipeworks are without having to rip the sink unit out but still could not find the cause after about 6 trips trying different things it turned out to be a plastic washer/unit that fits under the mixer tap which i changed myself and never got another leak,but we had to change the van because it had 90% damp behind the near side rear wheel which i have since found out is a common problem on the 2010 year models so check that out hope all goes well