Hi Bigus

Yes - at second hand. :wink:

My tugger mate has had one for a couple of years now, and is very satisfied. He recommends them to anyone who asks, and wishes they had been available years ago.

A caution first however. The bottles are a bit bigger than most Calor or Gaslow equivalents, so do check the dimensions before buying one to ensure it will go in your locker.

They are light weight, and have a clear(ish) panel all down the front so you can see at a glance how much gas you have left. They are easy to fill using the adapter that comes with them, but you do have to open the locker door to do it. This presents no problem on forecourts since it is very obviously a khosher refillable, and it comes with multilingual declarations anyway.

Nothing much more to say. It does what it says on the tin . . . and you have no doubt got all the detailed info off their website already. :wink:

Dave

 

I have been using a safefill cylinder for over 2 years too. I initially bought it as a back up as I did have a underslung LPG tank fitted in my last motorhome and in the event of been on site and running out of LPG I could simply connect the safefill cylinder and use that, rather than having to move the van.

Then I simply filled it up at the next stop. Very simple to use, the forecourt filling gun simply fits the valve and the valve has an internal threaded connection to connect a standard regulator.

Has the 80% fill cut off as well.

On my new motorhome I'll be having an underslung tank fitted so will do the same and use it as a back up.

Regards, David

 

Are they still only 6kg size.

cabby

 

No - there's a new one out which is blue, and quite a bit bigger. It now holds 20 litres, which is much more useful.

I saw it at the NEC. http://www.safefill.co.uk/

Dave

 

they told me they had no plans to bring out a bigger bottle when I asked, that's why I went to gaslow. plus the new bottle has the fail safe so I do not need the secumotion .

cabby

 

Dumb question, I guess - is the cylinder filler, the same as the gas outlet? ie does the gas bottle need to be disconnected from the van supply pipe to the regulator, in order to refill it?

No doubt it is obvious to most, but unfortunately, not to me.

Thanks, Mike

 

Gaslow do a bottle the same as safefill, ODB seem to be cheaper than most suppliers at the moment. On gaslow there is an inlet and an outlet.
On the Safefill there is only one connection which is used to fill and supply. In my opinion not a safe way to go.

cabby

 

Gaslow do a bottle the same as safefill, ODB seem to be cheaper than most suppliers at the moment. On gaslow there is an inlet and an outlet.
On the Safefill there is only one connection which is used to fill and supply. In my opinion not a safe way to go.

cabby

Thanks Cabby!

And the hassle of disconnecting and reconnecting the van supply, just to top-up the safefill.

Shame, because otherwise the proposition looks good, but this fact appears to be a major flaw.

Mike

 

mikebeaches said:- And the hassle of disconnecting and reconnecting the van supply, just to top-up the safefill.

Hi Mike

Compared to what? :? Don't let that single factor put you off. :wink:

Admittedly it's a bit more trouble than topping up underslung tanks, Gaslow or similar, but it's a heck of a lot easier than lugging Calor bottles into and out of the locker!

And it's a lot cheaper than any of the alternatives, needs no more installation than a Calor bottle, is light and easy to move so it could be used with the barbecue (away from the van for safety and comfort (say) under a shady tree), no trouble at all to transfer to the next van, can be taken in the toad for a refill, needs no gauge as you can see the level of LPG in the "window" . . . . . etc. :wink:

One little negative set against so many positives . . . and if you have a handwheel on your POL pigtail, even the inconvenience of disconnecting is momentary.

Just my opinion - based on the experience of my tugger mate who has done all of the above.

As for the safety issue raised. The single connection for filling and supply is not really a single connection at all. Internally there are separate valves, including a safety cut-off if you forget to close the take-off valve when disconnecting. Needless to say, it has full PI certification stampings on both the cylinder and the valve assembly.

Dave

 

mikebeaches said:- And the hassle of disconnecting and reconnecting the van supply, just to top-up the safefill.

Hi Mike

Compared to what? :? Don't let that single factor put you off. :wink:
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Dave

Thanks Dave. Initially, I'd assumed it would be just a matter of attaching the gas gun to the bottle to fill up, without the faff of disconnecting it first each time, then re-connecting afterwards.

And yes, I hear what you say about the advantages - indeed those are the very factors that most appeal.

As you suggest, fitting a handwheel to the pigtail would probably be the answer to making the process more straightforward.

We don't actually use a lot of gas because the van has diesel space heating and we normally (but not always) use a hook-up. But the product does hold some appeal.

Thanks again.

Mike

 

Hi.
We ran with two Safefills,so the empty one was always,"Ready to fill". Perhaps two was a bit belt and braces,but when one ran out you had weeks to refill it,if at home put it in the boot of your car.
As mentioned,take out for a BBQ,the permutations just go on and on,put ours up for sale tea time,they left the yard next morning about 10.00hrs, if i had more i could have sold them all day.

PS And they are light

 

I notice that no one has mentioned those dreaded forecourt staff. you know the ones that insist that you cannot fill a gas bottle on the forecourt. 'elf & safety. What do you do if you are refused permission to fill. They are happy to allow us to fill using an approved fill point. this is also why I went for gaslow fitted with a filler point.

cabby

 

Hi.
I am sure that if someone put their mind to it,an external filler could be fitted. Drill hole fit receiver,connect pipe to cylinder,jobs a good 'un. In our case it was 5 miles to a local garage,take it out of the boot and fill before we set off,in england Safefill have many dedicated service areas/garages that are signed up to accepting them,as said often enough on another forum,you surely would not run BOTH out before refilling,so as mentioned in my post,you have WEEKS to refill the empty one,so move on until you get it filled,but there again,if you have drilled your hole etc. there should be no problem.
I have no connection with Safefill,other than as a satisfied customer,their product was the right choice for me at the time, our new unit comes with an underslung tank,result.
Mentioned on this other forum,was to fill your gas tank first,if refused,go to the next station,it is a bit of a give away if you fill up with Diesel,then move over to the lpg pumps :roll:
hulltramper

 

Cabby said:- I notice that no one has mentioned those dreaded forecourt staff.

Do try to keep up, that boy at the back! :lol:

In the second post in the thread . . .

Zebedee said:- They are easy to fill using the adapter that comes with them, but you do have to open the locker door to do it. This presents no problem on forecourts since it is very obviously a khosher refillable, and it comes with multilingual declarations anyway.

Maybe I ought to have said "This should present no problem . . . !" There's always the occasional jobsworth who has lost the power of independent thought, but refusals should be rare when presented with the documentation.

Dave

 

I would not have called that a mention, merely a sideways glance.

cabby