[DABurleigh]

That's a nice piece of engineering design, then. Wouldn't mind seeing it if we have an opportunity to meet at a rally. Too lightweight for my 150kgs scooter but a nice compromise of maximum weight and hide away rack.

Dave
Edit - or rather tell the buyer MHF rallies are great!

 

[101600]

found one HERE
for sale on ebay bit expensive but it shows you can do it, but Laikas do have a good payload!!

Thanks Rob. Its our Laika - the manufaturer fitted rack has a max load of 120kg. It has the advantage of an 1100kg payload with a small overhang. We carry a Yamaha XT225 off-road bike which has enough poke and comfort to carry the two of us (4,500km around Greece last year plus 6000 miles in the Laika).
Sue and Bob

I had a 200i 1999 and loved it but we decided we needed to use my car more and to save money we went back to CV's as it suits our way of caming a little better. I think Laika should make more vans like that one with the rack on it!!

 

[106367]

Hymer fit bike carriers ,my own 1984 550 is max permissible load 175Kg,there may be other max loads,try the german Hymer forums/sites there are often used carriers for sale.
brian

 

[PAT4NEIL]

carrying a motorbike on the back

Hello all
I have now purchased an Laika Iveco 100 Ecovip, which looks like it has a substantial chassis, and plenty of weight allowance on the axles. Yet to take it to the weighbridge to weigh each axle. But at present it looks like the payload is about 900kg. The back axle has two tyres each side. Do you think it is cappable of carrying a bike of 200kg. I need to have an appropriate tow bar and carrying rack fitted. Any suggestions, I not only want to be legal but safe as well.

Thanks Patsy

 

[asprn]

Re: carrying a motorbike on the back

Hello all

Hi Patsy,

Can't help with the question, but just to remind you that you've only got one more post left as an unsubscribed member.

Dougie.

 

[DABurleigh]

Patsy,

In my judgement/ experience, you will only get away with this with a short overhang. Hopefully you have understood the thread referenced above that directs you to the formulae.

200kg is a heck of a weight to suspend at the rear, once you add the weight of the engineering necessary to keep it there.

Dave

 

[PAT4NEIL]

Been to a weighbrige, hooray

maximum mass motor home 4200kg
front axle 1800
rear axle 3100kg

weighbridge front axle 1660
rear axle 2100kg


wheelbase of motorhome 3750

overhang from rear axle centre to rear of bumper valance
2300

What do you think, could I get away with a 180kg bike, rack and tow bar?

 

[DABurleigh]

Well, as the references in this thread show, it depends on:

a) your minimum front axle weight limit, as it will be 320kg less than its maximum,
b) your sourcing a suitable rack and fixing method, as it will require considerable strengthening, and;
c) the extent to which you were loaded at the weighbridge as if for a full trip away, with passengers, fuel, water, etc., as you would be ~180kg from your limit.

Obviously I have had to make assumptions on the rack/fixing weight and the location of the load.

Dave

 

[PAT4NEIL]

Thanks Dave
the figure A you state 320Kg below maximum, how does that work,
and the figure C There was a driver and front passenger, both 100 kgs each, pretty much loaded as we were going away, 80 litres of water in water tank in middle of van. and half a tank of fuel. No waste water or toilet waste though, because we have the van ready for winter storage. I know we are pretty close to our limit. I read somewhere not sure if on this forum, but someone has stated that you had to be within 60% of your wheelbase. Do you know anything about that?
kind regards
Patsy4

 

[DABurleigh]

"the figure A you state 320Kg below maximum, how does that work"

How does what work? If you mean how did I calculate it, just using the formula referenced in this thread. What did you make it?

Axles have maximum weights, but for safety you also need a minimum weight on it, obviously usually the front, for steering stability if not front-wheel drive traction when that applies. Stick too much weight on the back and the front goes all light. Your rear wheels are simply the fulcrum of a see-saw.

As to overhang, your distance from rear wheel touching the ground to the rearmost projection on your vehicle, which includes things hung on a rear rack but obviously not a trailer, should not be greater than 60% of the wheelbase. Paul Dudley of Dudleys of Oxfordshire claims that RVs are exempted from this, and while I do respect his knowledge and integrity, I researched as carefully as I could and concluded myself that they are not exempt.

As to Chris' "500kg OK" lighthearted suggestion, amazingly, even if one added another ~70kg for rack/chassis support, you would still be OK on the rear axle. The front lifts even more and you blow your payload limit, but that's an impressive rear axle you have, especially given the overhang!

In your position I would conclude payload and axle weights (subject to minimum front check, but I suspect you are OK) are no longer a showstopper for that weight bike, though you would have to take care not to have certain combinations of an extra passenger, fullish black/grey tanks and general stuff. You now need to pursue some decent engineers who might have a fighting chance of fitting a suitable rack without it becoming a huge load in its own right. Suspending 180kgs in the air with the dynamic loads of going over road humps and other shocks, is no mean engineering feat.

Dave

 

[Goldwinger]

carring a motorcycle on the back of a hymer

Patsy, we will be selling our goldwing trailer will carry all bikes, built by consett trailers in the new year if you are interest please send me an e-mail message for further details.

 

[Proff]

Hi All.
We have changed our single wheel VW Magnum [3.5tonne]
for a Hymer 660 Dually [4.6 tonne] mainly to do without the trailer
and the ease of the Hymer bed over the overcab double
It has a pull out bike rack in back bumper and will carry my BMW R80g/s and still have nearly 600kgs available on the back axle weights.
Only problem is loading it, as it looks a lot lower than it actually is when it comes to loading 8O
I'll post a pic next time i've got it loaded...
R80g/s weighs 180 kgs, bike rack max weight is 175kgs so I'll have to make sure tank is empty :wink:

 

[Jede]

We looked for ages for a mh capable of carrying a bike. We ended up with this compromise Larger mh, smaller bike!