I watched as two british vans dumped there water in the aire at calias amazing when there is a dumping station there. just because it was early in the morning and dark they must have thought nobody would see them also got picture both autotrail one with pop in the reg the other kft

 

I just don't understand those who think its ok to empty grey water on the road especially once it has been festering in a tank for a while


Name and Shame them

but

If you ever see water coming out of my van it will be me emptying my fresh water tank. The only way I can completely empty it is to do a nice 200 mile trip with the drain valve open.

 

large silver Hymer with a personalised number plate.

Funny that, on our recent 'tour' the majority of British Hymers had personalised number plates.

What is it with Hymer owners. Do they think they're a superior race or something?

I often notice on forums that Hymer owners name drop the brand into general posts.

e.g. "We're taking the Hymer to France", or "We're going in our Hymer"

I don't see this strange behaviour with other brands :?

 

Hymer, glad I have an Autotrail...

Waste water.. no excuse just lazy and gives us all a bad name.. :evil:

 

Waste water in Vico Equense

:roll: Ciao tutti,
if they were dumping where the road up from the camspite joins the main road at the bus stop at Seiano, not only were they filthy inconsiderate s**s, but it is also extremely dangerous! for themselves and others :evil: :evil:
saluti,
eddied

 

No, it was at the bottom of the hill outside the Spiaggio campsite (which incidentally has the friendliest and most helpful owner I have ever met), but the water would still have been running when they reached the main road

 

Let's hear it for the owner of a white fifth-wheeler (a Celtic Rambler) that left the Sant Antonio campsite in Vico Equense, near Sorrento, at 0920 on Saturday 19th Sept, travelling in convoy with a large silver Hymer with a personalised number plate. Stopping in the narrow street (and blocking the local bus) he opened his grey water tank full bore to discharge into the street. His intention had obviously been to drive up the hill fouling the street as he went. Only the angry shouts of French motorhomers waiting at the bus stop with us made him turn it off and hurriedly drive away.

I apologised to the French on behalf of more considerate British motorhomers, and regret I did not think quick enough to take a photo.

Sir, if you read this please be aware that this is disgusting behaviour, and damages the reputation of all of us. I'd like to think will be more considerate in the future - but I won't be putting any money on it.

To be frank, who cares?

I do, but not enough to post it here.

Seen plenty of other Europeans doing the same.

So it was a Hymer with a Private reg, the driver could have been Italian.

The point seems more anti 5th wheel/hymer to me.

Anyone who wants a rant, follow some of the MH's leaving the NEC car parks after a show. See all the vans with water dripping from their drain cocks.

 

I don't think hymer owners feel above anyone, I think the private reg is to hide the vehicles' age!

If you have to drag your grey to the next site, so be it!

I have always found the council workers quite helpful if you are stuck as they know where there are places you can drop your grey where it goes to the water treatment rather than the rivers. All you have to do is ask them, or call the local council. They would rather direct you than clear up your mess!

 

If you ever see water coming out of my van it will be me emptying my fresh water tank. The only way I can completely empty it is to do a nice 200 mile trip with the drain valve open.

At the risk of being a smart arse - I syphon mine :roll:

 

Derek500

We're taking our hymer to France next year.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

PaulnCaz.

 

I dump my grey waste on the road (well let it dribble out actually). This method was recommended to me by a my dealer when I bought the van.

As has been discussed on here ad tedium, many of us don't see a problem. If you wild camp or use CL's, you have no alternative.

As for naming and shaming me, feel free. Do I give a toss?

 

Anyone who wants a rant, follow some of the MH's leaving the NEC car parks after a show. See all the vans with water dripping from their drain cocks.

One of them could have been me (but wasn't). After enquiring of a CC steward where I could empty my grey waste (I was on the official CC camping area), I was told "We don't have any facilities for motorhomes - just drive down the road and dump it on the grass verge". I didn't.

Mike

 

I have seen plenty emptying their grey water in the streets, both Uk and Continental, it is a little idle I must say, but be honest is it that bad, it usually only has old hand washing / shower water in it. its not as if the person was emptying his loo.

 

I had a discussion about this with a senior scientist from the Environment Agency. After giving it some thought he advised that chucking a bucket of grey water into a hedge at the edge of the campsite was probably OK, but letting it run off into the normal drains / rainwater system (as distinct from mains sewers) was a no-no.

On a campsite in France there was a Belgian MH on the pitch opposite who just left his waste water drain tap open the whole time he was there. I could hear the water spalshing onto the pitch under his MH every time he or his wife used their sink. Yukk. I pity the next person to use that pitch; might be a tenter for example.


SD

 

Why is it so wrong to dump grey waste water on the road? Here's my take on the subject: -

Grey waste water contains soap (from our bathrooms and washing up water from our kitchens). Dumping it on the road means dumping soap (and other things of course) on the road.

krull - "many of us don't see a problem" - the problem is that soap is slippery, so what you are effectively doing is making the road surface slippery. I'm sure MHF members who are also cyclists and motorcyclists might want a word about that!

Ever ridden a bike over a puddle of rain water and noticed how you get splashed by it? How would like ride over a puddle of someones washing water and get splashed by that!

krull - "This method was recommended to me by a my dealer" - Your dealer is an idiot, please name and shame.

krull - "If you wild camp or use CL's, you have no alternative" - So you dump all your rubbish out the window as you're going along do you? Or do you wait till you get home or find a bin to put it in?

Dumping grey waste on the road as you're going along is a disgusting habbit as well as dangerous to other road users as I've pointed out above. Lets have a bit more consideration can we and empty it down a drain.

 

Dumping grey water on the move is a disgusting habit ( everyone gets a bit)

The culprits should be horsewhipped

Loddy

 

Hi, Veering slightly off the grey water subject, we were returning home from the UK a couple of weeks ago and stopped overnight at a campsite near Blois. which we got from the Alan Rogers book. The site was a bit scruffy but I suppose that was normal after a hot summer but they are a year round site. Out of three sanitary blocks on site only one was open and that wasn't the one with chemical waste disposal facilities. I asked where I could empty the waste and was told there was a motorhome service point with a grey water disposal grille and I should empty it there as it all went into the same place. Surely that can't be right as the risk of disease would be unacceptable let alone the potential for offensive smells. If the owners can't be bothered to apply proper standards who can ? Needless to say we won't be back there.

Regards, Tom

Toujours a Vacances !

 

Grey water

Well as if that isn't bad enough I once saw an "Italian" MH dump his toilet tank on the grey water grid and then promptly drive off and leave the contents for all to see! Oh year, and this year while on the Caravan club site at Kimmeridge, where there are no toilet facilities, my wife witnessed a member "urinating in the grey water dump point!!!!!! Don't it just make you sick.
Oh yeah, we will be at the Cornwall rally this weekend in "The Hymer" :lol: :lol:
curlyboy

 

Its not just Hymer owners or British its everyone - we were in Honfleur in August and one of only a handful of Brits and some foreigner dump their toilet in the drinking water washing outerer. They had to come and pump the sewage back into the drain which was all of 3 feet to the right.

Unfortunately arrived last on site and thought oooh that's a big spot no wonder it was next to the dump some right rank smells all night! 8O

Greenie

 

smart arse!!!!! :lol:

 

Why is it so wrong to dump grey waste water on the road? Here's my take on the subject: -

Grey waste water contains soap (from our bathrooms and washing up water from our kitchens). Dumping it on the road means dumping soap (and other things of course) on the road.

krull - "many of us don't see a problem" - the problem is that soap is slippery, so what you are effectively doing is making the road surface slippery. I'm sure MHF members who are also cyclists and motorcyclists might want a word about that!

Ever ridden a bike over a puddle of rain water and noticed how you get splashed by it? How would like ride over a puddle of someones washing water and get splashed by that!

krull - "This method was recommended to me by a my dealer" - Your dealer is an idiot, please name and shame.

krull - "If you wild camp or use CL's, you have no alternative" - So you dump all your rubbish out the window as you're going along do you? Or do you wait till you get home or find a bin to put it in?

Dumping grey waste on the road as you're going along is a disgusting habbit as well as dangerous to other road users as I've pointed out above. Lets have a bit more consideration can we and empty it down a drain.

Just a couple of observations:

I cycle about 100 miles per week and motorcycle about 10,000 mles per year. Thank you very much. Riding over dribbles of grey waste does not concern me in the least. As for dangerous, a trifle melodramatic I suggest.

As for CL's, they are required as a registration criteria to provide a minimum facility of a bin and a toilet dump facility. This can be a pit in a corner of a field so cannot be driven near. I have never seen a MH grey waste dump at a CL. Yes I could buy a waste master, but I consider them too bulky for occasional use.

If you don't fancy dumping on the road, well done, give yourself a pat on the back. But not all of us spend all our time on CC sites where such facilities are available, nor do we have facilities at home either.

 

It is not as bad as some make out, Read This :- http://www.goselfsufficient.co.uk/using-grey-water-in-your-home.html

 

Grey water

While we were at the Blois aire this year I watched 2 Italien vans emptying their toilet cassetes down the grey water point then using the fresh water pipe to wash them out...........yuck

 

Why does it seem to be just Italian vans?

Noticed the same thing happening on a site in Salzburg over new year. The poor site owner was tearing what little hair he had left out trying to educate them in the fine art of emptying and cleaning wc and waste tanks.

It seems that 'most' Italian vans are hired (I would say that over 75% of the vans on the site in Salzburg were hired and we were the only non Italian there!!), and that the hirers are not educated properly by the hire companies in the arts of motorhome use and etiquette.

Why do I think they were hired? Because they all had large stickers on them advertising the hire agency......

Carl

 

And we wonder why car parks have height barriers and no aires in this country.

Minority selfish b`stards spoil everythig for the majority.

Dave p