[rayc]

I had understood earlier posts to suggest that, from within the van, there would a way of engaging the habitation lock by a button or something. Then we could have locked the van from the inside, left via the cab and then locked the cab as normal.

So is there really is no way of locking the door from the inside except for operating the central locking?

 

[Landyman]

So is there really is no way of locking the door from the inside except for operating the central locking?

See my earlier post Ray.

I'm pretty sure it can be locked by pushing the handle in towards the door.

 

[chilly]

We've got the same door on our Swift. I've just been out to have a look and, yes, you can lock it by pushing in the inside handle

 

[Ingwe]

Right, will give it a try. Tomorrow.
Thanks all and will post back. That is, if the van is still there!

 

[Ingwe]

Actually, just noticed some confusion (on my part). There are 2 videos posted. Only one of them is the Bailey 620. Our lock is like the first one. Not the second. From the interior, there is only one handle. So sorry, the later posts won't solve the problem.
Damn, thought we had the answer! Still, will look at it all again tomorrow.

 

[eurajohn]

Actually, just noticed some confusion (on my part). There are 2 videos posted. Only one of them is the Bailey 620. Our lock is like the first one. Not the second. From the interior, there is only one handle. So sorry, the later posts won't solve the problem.
Damn, thought we had the answer! Still, will look at it all again tomorrow.

I mentioned in my reply regarding the single handle, try pushing it forwards i.e. into the door, that is normally the way that style of door locks from the inside.
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[Ingwe]

Well, i will try tomorrow. Thanks eurajohn. As I say, I'll report back. Really frustrating that I can't go today!

 

[Pudsey_Bear]

Actually, just noticed some confusion (on my part). There are 2 videos posted. Only one of them is the Bailey 620. Our lock is like the first one. Not the second. From the interior, there is only one handle. So sorry, the later posts won't solve the problem.
Damn, thought we had the answer! Still, will look at it all again tomorrow.

I posted it to show it had been changed.

 

[Ingwe]

By way of update, my wife went to the van. There is no way of locking the door by pushing the handle inwards. She checked for electrical contacts and all seemd clean. She then charged up the cab battery for 3 hours and then was able to lock the habitation but only with the key. So some progress. The van is secure.

The owner of the storage facility told her that in some Volvos, if one opens the car using the key instead of by central locking, it is possible for the doors 'to get out of synch' but couldn't help further. So next weekend, we will take van out for a good run and charge up both her leisure battery and cab battery (we have a solar panel) and hopefully fully charge both batteries.

I will then post back whether we can reset the central locking including the habitation door.

 

[philoaks]

By way of update, my wife went to the van. There is no way of locking the door by pushing the handle inwards. She checked for electrical contacts and all seemd clean. She then charged up the cab battery for 3 hours and then was able to lock the habitation but only with the key. So some progress. The van is secure.

The owner of the storage facility told her that in some Volvos, if one opens the car using the key instead of by central locking, it is possible for the doors 'to get out of synch' but couldn't help further. So next weekend, we will take van out for a good run and charge up both her leisure battery and cab battery (we have a solar panel) and hopefully fully charge both batteries.

I will then post back whether we can reset the central locking including the habitation door.

I think the bottom line, irrespective of whether it works ok once charged up is the fact that you should be able to lock the habitation door manually using the key (as mentioned by Penguin and others earlier in the thread).

To have that working is crucial, as you have discovered, in the event of the battery/batteries going flat. If you do manage to reset the central locking I think you should still get it back to a dealer to get the manual locking side of things resolved.

Whilst you are there perhaps they can check why you can't manually lock the door from the inside as I would have thought it should be possible.

 

[rayc]

The Bailey wiring diagram shows the Habitation Door Central Locking interfaces with the cab electrics so appears to be a function of the cab battery and not the habitation one. Page 13 of the link below. It says it is a service Manual but that is stretching it by a long way.
In any event a door that cannot be locked manually from the inside is no good and I cannot believe it is designed that way. How do you lock it from the inside when the motor home is on the road?
http://www.baileyofbristol.co.uk/images/downloads/Complete Approach Service with covers_21250.pdf

 

[philoaks]

In any event a door that cannot be locked manually from the inside is no good and I cannot believe it is designed that way. How do you lock it from the inside when the motor home is on the road?

My thoughts too Ray but I did find this in a Bailey user manual on their website. It was in the check list of things to do before moving off.

• Lock the motorhome's exterior door
(remember to remove the keys).

 

[rayc]

My thoughts too Ray but I did find this in a Bailey user manual on their website. It was in the check list of things to do before moving off.

• Lock the motorhome's exterior door
(remember to remove the keys).

It looks like it is built like a caravan as that is what you would do. On all of mine though you could still lock them from the inside.
I guess I am lucky that I can lock mine manually from the inside or outside or set the cab electrics to centrally lock all doors at approx 10mph.

 

[Ingwe]

When driving off, after a few seconds, all the doors lock off the central locking. It sounds as if the habitation door is lockin, but will check next time, that the habitation door is locked.

 

[eurajohn]

When driving off, after a few seconds, all the doors lock off the central locking. It sounds as if the habitation door is lockin, but will check next time, that the habitation door is locked.

Don't forget you'll have to check from the outside, as opening from inside the vehicle will automatically override the central locking.

Good thought philoaks, about it being built like a caravan, after all that is their main business.

On another thought the newer Fiats (and derivatives) can only be locked inside via the central locking, which for me is a retrograde step but I guess done for vehicle theft protection.

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[rayc]

Don't forget you'll have to check from the outside, as opening from inside the vehicle will automatically override the central locking.

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I am not sure that opening the habitation door from the inside actually unlocks the cab doors as well. It is possible to exit by the habitation door and then shut it which locks it again, leaving you outside with all doors locked and possibly the keys inside.

 

[eurajohn]

I am not sure that opening the habitation door from the inside actually unlocks the cab doors as well. It is possible to exit by the habitation door and then shut it which locks it again, leaving you outside with all doors locked and possibly the keys inside.

Not so with my latest and last two vans Ray. although that may be something to do with the fact they were all from the Pilote stable (2 Pilote and 1 Frankia).
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[rayc]

Not so with my latest and last two vans Ray. although that may be something to do with the fact they were all from the Pilote stable (2 Pilote and 1 Frankia).
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On my Adria if I lock the cab doors with the key in drivers door then the habitation door also locks and engine immobiliser is set. If I unlock the habitation door the cab doors stay locked and the immobiliser remains set. On one or two occasions when I have shut the habitation door in that condition it has locked itself requiring the key to open it or be opened from the inside by someone else.
There are subtle differences between my Euro 4 Rapido and my current Euro 5 Adria as far as the central locking and manual operation of the doors is concerned. Hartal doors and Adria, and possibly others for all I know, are hit and miss and tales on the internet regarding their locking idiosyncrasies.

 

[pete4x4]

That's the Hartal door fitted to all of the Bailey Approach SE range and you push the handle in to lock it.
There are issues though where the rod from the lock to the mechanism pops out of its plastic clip and ends up not being able to lock the door. Maybe not in this case but I fixed mine with a ziptie.

However if its working as intended then you can lock it from the inside.

 

[Solwaybuggier]

Pete4x4 has just beaten me to it! We normally lock ours at night with the central locking, and the door handle on the hab door pops in. Just checked in our 13 reg Bailey Approach 740 - pushed in the handle and checked outside - it was locked.